Life After the Badge

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3:06 So I hope everyone is okay and our artfellow prayers are with you. So let's welcome our guest. Welcome, Calumny, Hi, Daviya, thank you. So we usually start out. With some memories or some remarkable moments from a time when you were young and that left a postive mark on you. Wow, Well, thinking back, I was always very different. I was very creative, very musical. I was kind of put out as gifted in that way, and that being able to be who I was when I was younger and do the music and just be able to use my creativity was so beautiful that with my parents allowing me to be different and to be who I was, so that really comes back as something that was so special growing up.

4:14 Of course, and allowing the space for the child to express themselves, just like as it is for an individual to express themselves as they grow So the question is that, like you know, it brings. So when you say that your musical were you interested in singing or were you leaning towards one of the musical instruments. Well, I loved to sing and I still do, and I also played piano. I started guitar, didn't get very far, but I have a beautiful guitar. Sitting in his case. Has flute. I played flute in the band at school and then ended up going to get awards actually for top floutists.

5:03 So I and I have not picked my flute up again. I have a beautiful flute sitting in its case. But that was all I guess in my younger years. So you mentioned that you know you were into the creativity. So what interest did your life take as you grew up? Well, very different actually, So I did music. I went in school. I loved music. And you know, so I was in band, in choir, drama, all that kind of stuff. But then I ended up also going into psych and sociology and then got a minor in music and university. Before that, though, I had the.

5:45 Opportunity to travel around in Ireland and started up a group with Ireland a Rise. So it was a faith based group, and so we sang around Ireland for a while, and then I. Ended up also going to Natville at the age of nineteen and working with some ar reps and getting some music and looking into doing some recording. But then of course I have to come back and you know, go to university because every child has, you know, every good child has to go to university get their degrees. So I did psyched sociology. As I said in a minor in music. I really really wanted to work in the schools with young girls, just teaching them about empowerment and how they can build themselves up. But I was told that I would have to go back and get a teaching degree.

6:37 But I didn't want to teach. I just wanted to work. With the young girls at that time. So I ended up going into oil and gas because I'm in Calgary, Alberta, and oil and gas is a big thing here. So did pr and marketing for a number of years, and. Then at the age of twenty six, decided that I needed a change and put my name in to become a police officer. Oh okay, so that's a huge transition. Working with girls music and what was behind that decision. Well, I think there was a couple of things. The first thing was in oil and gas at that time.

7:20 Now this was, you know, quite a while ago. Women were not able to move up as they are now, and so. I felt stuck. And at that time I wanted to be able to do a job where men and women do the same thing and get paid the same. And again I'm not like this raw raw, you know, girl all girl power, braw burning that kind of thing, but because I really feel that men and women have so much to offer from each side, and I think when we can work together, man, you could have such an amazing company with using both male and females. Right. So one of the things that I really noticed is I wanted to do something where I was getting paid the same and doing the same job. So when I looked into policing, that's exactly what it was. What I did not realize though, is it sure takes a lot of gusto. I'd never been in a fight before. I had never I'd never touched or handled a weapon of any type, so any kind of gun.

8:24 This was all new to me. So going in here, I mean, I have nails, I like my makeup and hair, done. I love fashion, so you know. When you look at excuse me, when you look at the police, and especially in Calgary, we have our lovely blue polyester uniforms, right, So so it kind of the coolest thing when I look at with policing, though, is it. Well, I guess when I was starting to go through the process, I was also dyingnosed with cancer at that time, and so when looking back now, that was I think that was kind of one of these I want to call it a little speed bump, because I could have looked at it two ways.

9:16 It could have been a huge devastation. Of I can't believe I have cancer, how terrible, and kind of stopped everything with the process of going through to get into the police or as I did, I thought, no, you know what, I'm going to keep on doing my treatment and I'm going to keep going through the process because I really felt that the doors were opening for me very quickly with policing. And other people had been deferred for a year, eighteen months, they would fail the polygraph, they would fail different things, but yet for myself, everything was just going So I thought, I don't want to stop that momentum, and I really believed that with my treatment, I was going to be able to do both.

10:07 That's really courageous. And you mentioned that things were aligned for you as you were going through and I'm assuming that there was a lot of physical training as well. Yes, And I counted seventy two bruises on my body one day after we had we went through kind of the multiple assailant attacks. And now this was all through training. But again I had never been in a fight before I had, you know, it was all new and so I was looking at these bruises. My first thought was, Oh, my goodness, what have I got myself into? And is this something that I want to keep going in because this was not something that I.

10:49 Was used to. And what made you stay the course because as you mentioned that you wanted to be in a place, you know, where you can do the same thing. It was not competition. It is just that, like you know, I want to not feel stuck. I'm going to be able to keep on moving on. And here you are, I mean, you were in a very difficult situation. People fold under, like you know, especially during the time of cancer, and here you are challenging your body. So tell us, you know what for the lessons you learned and how did you move through that tough time. Well, one of the biggest things for me is I'm a woman of faith, and so prayer for me was huge and the community that was so huge as well, whether it was our church community, my family. I had so much support in so many different areas, and I believe, you know, might over matter for myself. Sometimes you really have to. You know, it's like that little engine that could.

11:52 I think I can, I think I can, I know I can, and just keep going. And you know, I look at even and even in days now, I mean, things happen that are out of our control. Things happen that maybe it's a consequence of something that we did, but you know, we have a choice. Are we going to keep going or are we not? And for myself, it was I've. Got to do this because I really believe this is where I'm supposed to be. And as I powered through and got into policing, it was one of the best. Decisions I did. I loved what I did, and to this day, I have no regrets of being part of the police department.

12:40 So what would you say were your best moments from that journey and what brought you that satisfaction. I think a few things. Number one, serving I have I love serving people and just being there for people. And you know when you when you talk to people who want to be officers or nurses excuse me, or nurses or somebody, you know they want to help people. That's what we want to do. But it's a very different way of helping people because we can have such a huge impact. But people can have such a huge impact on me as well, because you start seeing things through different people's eyes. So you know, you go to for instance, you go to a call and it could be a break and inner and this may have been your fifth break and inner call that I've attended, saved for that day.

13:37 But that family that had happened to you that you are at now. They have never had to deal with police before, They've never had anything like this happen. So now they feel that their home, their sanctuary, has been invaded and they have Whether stuff was taken or not, or the home was you know, messed and destroyed or not, that's not the point. Point is you are now going to something that their whole life has been turned upside down. So how you go and you treat them and you sit with them and just allow. Them to be. That is a huge thing and that can make her break somebody's day or even life and how you treat them.

14:23 So that was a huge thing to learn. And I think another big thing for me for one of the best times was being a school resource officer. I was working in the high schools for eight and a half years and absolutely loved it. You know, these youth that I worked with and the staff. I learned so much through them, and even to this day, I still get calls and you know, Facebook messages of people who are having kids or getting married or you know, onto their second or third degrees or masters, and so there's been such a relationship that was built through me even being a I guess a police officer, you know, enforcing our rules at the school, but still.

15:12 Being able to have that and build those relationships. MM. So what are some of the ways where you can create that space? Ask the right questions and these could be sensitive topics. You mentioned that you know, you were growing, you were going in and talking with families who had their whole life turned upside down. Yeah, it does the matter, right, whether you're an entrepreneur or a parent, or a teacher, or an executive in a profession. I mean it could be with anyone, anyone going through something similar in different form or shape. What are some of the ways. So some of the ways that really worked, and I've kind of continued to use it, and like you say, even from the executive level when you're working with some of the the gen zs, I guess we can call them now.

16:07 But some of the big things. Number one is no judgment. That is so huge because we no matter for a. Parent or you know, or a teacher or you know, working in an executive or supervisory role, we all bring in our own biases. We all have our own things that we you know, this is how we do stuff. This is the right way. Yet, especially when. You're dealing with youth, sometimes when they want to come and just talk to you about something, they don't want an answer or they don't want, you know, an opinion or advice or anything like that. They just want to be heard. And I think that goes on even for us as adults. We want to be seen, we want to be heard, and we want to be valued. And those continue on right from youth and right from young kids.

17:00 You know, if we want to go right down. How many times, you know, you have a little two or three year. Olds, it's like mom, mom, Mom, mom. You know, it's like look, I'm right here. Hi. You know, they just want to be seen and they want to be heard. So no judgment is a huge thing. Finding a safe space and what that looks like is so different for everybody. For some people, uh it maybe you know when you're driving to or from activities and you've got your time in the car and I call it, you know, windshield windshield talk where you can just sit and nobody has to look at each other, but you can just talk.

17:40 And sometimes those are the best conversations driving to and from school, driving to and from activities that you can have with your youth, with your partner, I mean, even policing, when we had our partners in the car, sometimes those are the best times that we would, you know, have really deep discussions about life. So that safe space is huge. And another way was safe space. I was talking to a parent the other day and they had mentioned their teen is a gamer. They game all the time. They're struggling. The parent is struggling with trying to connect with their child because the parent hates gaming so and.

18:22 Doesn't even know how. So I said to them, why don't you ask your child or your youth to teach you go down for about ten or fifteen minutes and say, hey, look, I want to spend time with you. If this is how it's. Going to be, can you teach me how to play? And I said, you're probably going to be rolling your eyes fully, but I said, just. Do it inside. Don't show them, but just go and sit down, you know, ask them for the controller. I had called it a joystick, so that tells my age, but you know, ask them for the controller, have them teach you how to do it. So she said she went and did this and. They didn't really talk about anything, but you know, I think he was playing Call of Duty, so they just she you know, she learned how to play a little bit.

19:08 And she said, you know what, no joke, she said. Three days later, my son comes home and says, hey, can I chat. With you about something that's going on at school? She said. I literally had to stop in my footsteps because she said, I did not ever think that this was going to happen. But she said, just that time, playing the game broke down the barrier that she doesn't think could have been broken down in any other way. So again it's finding that safe space. And then the last one is active listening. It's so important no matter if it's with our youth or again as supervisor is with our spouse. You you get told something, you're supposedly listening, but in your mind now you've already got the answer. You are going to tell them how it's done, and you've actually stopped listening to what they're saying. So so instead I've had to actually sit down with parents and literally just tell them.

20:04 To shut up and not say anything. Let your child or your youth or whoever you're talking to, let them talk and actually sit and listen to what they're saying. Because half the time, when you start preparing what you're going to say, a lot of times that is the important stuff that they want you to listen to and you haven't even heard a word that they're saying. Yeah, you brought up some really really good points that can be so powerful in any situation, regardless who you are with as you're building meaningful relationships. A judgment, So as you mentioned about the biases, and like you know, we all come with biases. It's our brains are conditioned, and so what are some of the ways that people can get beyond that judgment?

21:00 Well, I think for myself because I mean, I have a sixteen year old son, and you know what, I cast judgment right away. I believe that kind of stopping before you are going to say anything, and first off, really look at and listen to what is what is being said, and you know, do I need to say anything right now? If I say this? What is it going to turn my child away from me, excuse me? Or is it going to allow my child to want to talk more with me? So that's kind of the first thing is kind of stop and think. And then I think too is put yourself in their shoes. It just has taken them a lot of guts to come forward and talk to you about something. So again, do you want to shut that communication down or do you want to actually be able to engage more? So if that means saying, you know right off the bat, you know what, thank you so much for coming and talking to me, because I know that must have been really hard for you to come in and say this and then even to ask them would you like to continue this conversation, you know, would you like some advice, would you like me to to kind of go through maybe what I've been through, or what do you need from me right now? And I and sometimes as parents, that

22:31 is hard for us to ask our child what do you need from us? Because we think we. Know what they need from us at most most times, but a lot of times we don't actually know what they need at that moment. So I think that really opens up a place where they feel that there's no judgment. It's amazing. So I wrote a book called Youth Truth. And the reason I wrote this book is the youth that I were talking that I was talking to you on numerous occasions. One of the biggest things was that they. Were scared to talk to their parents about stuff like suicide, bullying, even said, you know, self harm, all of that stuff social media because they were worried about the judgment that was going to come from their parents, what their parents were going to say, even if it was you know, they just wanted to bring some stuff up. They were worried and they were fearful of what mom and dad were going to bring forward. So that is where I thought, you know what, this is where we really need to bring some tools of how to work through this so that both sides can feel that they can come forward and engage in these hard conversations.

23:45 Yeah, it's it's you're right, like and having kids, you know, being a mom myself, I know, it's not the easiest thing to do, and it's it's to find balance, giving them the space and at the same time, not keeping quiet if you're seeing something. And one of the things that I have found is letting them know, like, listen, I'm not here so that you can like me, I'm you have to tell you what you may not want to like to hear. Yeah, so. Here's what I'm seeing, and it's coming from a place of love. Here is not like where I'm trying to pull you down or anything. And that seems to have worked as well. And sometimes, you know, it's they're hard and they're now such a hard place because with social media, unfortunately, what has happened is that a lot of parents will like, you know, I've got some of my clients will be complaining like, oh, you know, I buy them so much and all of that, and they don't seem happy, and it's like, don't rather than buy them the gifts, buy them the experiences like you know, where you're going out doing something together because unfortunately with our and there's something called TikTok brain where because what happens is, like you keep on seeing those reels, you need to have the consistent stimulation to release that dopamine to become happy. And

25:15 that's impacting the rest of their lives too, because people are so much on their phones and looking at the Insta or Facebook reels that brains are conditioned like it needs more and more to get happier. So social media, don't get me wrong, we're here, you know, sharing and getting the message out there. It's important it is leveled the playing field. But it's also important to use it in moderation and how do we use it? And that's another story to tell. As you can see, I could go on and on about. That well, and I think you said even it's it's like a drug, it's becoming an addiction. Yeah, And I think interesting that your clients had mentioned, you know, that they buy them everything. I ended up sitting down with my son and having him do the love language quiz for teens because I had an idea what his love language was. But I really wanted to see. And the reason that I ended up doing that was, you.

26:13 Know, he would say, well, let's go sit. Can we just watch a show together? So I'm thinking, perfect, you know, we're watching. A show, I can go through emails or whatever. And then you'd say, Mom, you know, you're on your phone again, and so it's like, oh, hey, you know, it's sorry, I'll put it away. Well, his love language is quality time. So what I right at that point, I'm like, Okay, even if we're just watching a show together, I'm off my device. I'm just engaged with our show, with talking with him, you know, and that is that'll be our time. But that's something that. He doesn't care about stuff. He doesn't care at all about stuff. But man alive, if I can go for supper with him, you know, just him and I, or we'll take a trip or something that for him, you can just see the smile and just in his eyes the sparkle, and that is enough. And so I think that that's really important for parents because again, we think we know what our kids need, but we are missing the actual point of what they actually need and are looking forward to.

27:20 Yeah. No, what you're saying is right on the mark. And also it's important as parents to be forgiving off yourself because kids don't come with the manual. Unfortunately, it would be. A big manual if they game with one. Exactly, and it can be different for each chiga. Again, yeah, so you know. There are so many situations because whatever you are seeing on the surface is not what's happening. There's more to it. So how can people like you did mention that you know, play games or like, you know, just be there for them? But if you're seeing something that's happening or bothering like and it could be an employee too, like you can see that they're not in it. What is a good way to understand that hidden struggle and recognize what they're not saying and how can they address that?

28:13 Well? Number one empathy and again it's putting yourself in their shoes. So if you if you were going through something and maybe you don't know what they're going through, but you know that something's going on, how would you like somebody to come and approach you? And what would that look like? And so and again everybody is different, but you know, just taking that person. Aside or even sending them a text and I know some people are like, oh my gosh, I want to be off our phones. But for our teens, sometimes just sending them a text of hey, you know what, can we chat a little bit? You know, love you and you know, and something like that, right so they know they're not in trouble, but that they know that you want to have some spend some time, or taking them aside, you know, if it's as an lawyer, taking them aside.

29:02 And just saying, hey, you know, what are you doing okay? Because I've just been noticing like you're just not yourself, You're not as happy, You're not you know, or even with work. I'm just noticing that you're you're kind of slowing down a little bit and stuff, and it kind of worries me. It concerns me. If you know, if you want to talk now, great, but I just want to let you know I'm here. I you know there. It's no judgment, it's confidential and it's a safe space. That's all you have to do. They will come when they're ready and you'll notice, you know. And I think somebody had brought forward, well, how do you know if somebody is going through even emotional stuff and they don't really talk about it. Well, if somebody is always really really happy and all of a sudden you see them kind of really back down or kind of being more to themselves they're telling you something. Or if somebody is always very quiet and all of a sudden little things are triggering them and just taking them over the edge, there's something going on. And it could be something even to the effect of say, parents are getting divorced, right, and it's kind of that hidden quiet thing because some there's some sometimes there's shame in that for for young people and even for adults themselves, or sometimes shame in that. So even something like that could trigger something for a youth that that all of a

30:34 sudden they need to talk to somebody, but they just again, they don't know how because it's that hard conversation mm hm. So And at work, I mean, we saw that at work with in our you know, with policing, where people were going through stuff and it's like, how do we talk to them because we don't want to we don't want it to seem like we're meddling in their lives. But you know what, we have concern and we want to make sure that they know that we're here and that's all it is. Even maybe grabbing a coffee or taking your child, you know, to Starbucks and getting a hot chocolate and sitting there, or a coffee with them and sitting there because again it's an open space and they're if they're ready to talk, they will talk.

31:18 Yeah, very true. It is, like you said, giving that space and letting them know that you're there for them whenever they're ready and providing that unconditional support. And that goes back again to the empathy piece that you mentioned so so important. So tell us, So do you have any stories or any times where you took people through this journey and like you know what where they were before and where they are now. Oh well, well I've got so I you know, what can I tell just kind. Of one of the stories from the book. So the book consists of.

32:02 The first nine chapters is true real stories from the youth themselves of stuff that they've gone through, what they people didn't know about them and kind of and in the end then kind of goes through you know, like never judge a book by its cover, you know, things like that. And then the last chapter talks about tools that are so important for. Any caregiver of a youth, and including youth themselves, to know they're not alone and to know what they can do and how they can help each other. And so one of the stories, it's John Stories, it's called and of course the names and all that stuff have been changed.

32:43 But he was a young a sixteen year old in high school. Never never posed any problems, never any concerns. He you know, was always in class, always there. But I just had noticed recently, and I was working in the high school as a police officer at the time, that he was looking a little bit more unhealthy, like his his face was, you know, a little bit more yellowish skin, and he was looking a little bit more gaunt, was losing weight, and he wasn't large to begin with, so you know, it was quite noticeable. And so I remember going up in one day just saying, hey, you know what, because I just really felt being led to give him. We would give out cafeteria cards so that the kids could have lunch because.

33:29 We were living we were in an area where not everybody had food, you know that kind of thing. It was a very there were the the high end homes than the Calgary housing, right, So we went it was very diverse, very diverse. So I just remember him looking at me and saying thank you. And the story goes where around eleven thirty at night one evening, I get a phone call and it was John and he said that He's like, I don't know if you remember me, but he said, I have doubted myself and the living room in gasoline and I'm ready. I'm ready to end it all. I'm ready to light I've got a match or a lighter with me right now.

34:13 And he said, I really need somebody here. And he said if you I need you, and if you don't come, he says, I'm going to. Light myself on fire. And so I was like, holy cow, okay. So I got I contacted the street sergeant that was working just let them know this is what we had. Got myself out of bed. I didn't have my uniform. At home, and so jumped in the car and went to his residence and just let him know that, you know, I was there. Gone in contact again with him, and he went through and told the story that he says, nobody knows this. I've never told anybody, but he said, my mom's a stripper. That's how she makes her money.

34:54 Dad's in jail, brothers in jail. He said, there's never food in the house. Each I wait up at night and to listen to the key come in the door so that I know Mom is getting home and she's safe. He said, I'll get out of bed. I'll go and check to make sure that you know there's no bruises or anything on her because of something that happened at the club. He said that there's times where I feel that if I wasn't around, she wouldn't have to do this. And so he said, I'm on a mattress that the springs are all coming through. When I open up my window, I'm looking at a brick wall by a parking lot. You know, there's no sun that comes through my window.

35:36 He said, I have three pairs of short or of jeans, three shirts, and a hoodie. And he said my shoes, He. Goes, I just keep ductaping them because they have so many holes in them. But he said, and he said, even when it's warm, he says, you probably have noticed I wear like a hoodie zipped up. He'said, because my t shirts have holes. And he said, so I want to still be presentable at school. Well, I'm on the phone thinking, oh. My goodness, you know, I had no idea, and so we were able to get him out of the house that you know, called him out of the house, and he did not light himself on fire. And I asked him, you know, once he got out to put the lighter down, and he was fully, fully doused and gasolene just drenched, and so he as he came out, I had, you know, uh, fire people and fire guys and stuff go in to just kind of check the residents out. And as he was getting checked out by ems, I went in. I asked if I could just go in and see what I was dealing with in the house, And no joke, he had doused the entire living room. The can of gasolene was sitting in the middle of the floor. When I walked into the kitchen and just you know, checked the fridge, in the cupboards, there was no food. I went upstairs and exactly as he said, his mattress or the window, his clothes.

36:58 He wasn't lying at all. But this child at sixteen, was dealing with adult issues. He was trying to be that adult for his mom, to make sure she was safe, to make sure that you know, nothing had happened to her, and then trying to be this child coming to school. And when we got out, or when I came out and was chatting with him more while he was in the ambulance, he asked, he said, why did you. Give me that card, you know, that day? And I told him, I said, I just felt that you needed He said, you know what, I had not eaten in four days. And he said, when you gave me that card, he said, I felt like you were a guardian angel that had come and been brought to me.

37:45 And he said, he goes. I was ready to go. He said, I don't want to be here anymore because if I'm not here, my mom. Doesn't have to do the things that she has to do. And all I said to him is, I said, there's more for your life. And so he asked by could ride with him to the hospital. And we went, and just that little bit of I mean and now he went off to university and he's got a family. But again just that little bit. We have no clue what people are going through. And so as you started your show with the kindness and the story which is beautiful of one of your clients, kindness goes such a long way and we never know what that person is going through. And for me, my company is called Diamond in the Rough because each of us has a diamond in us.

38:38 And many diamonds. Many of us have tarnished diamonds because of our traumas, what we've been through, where we've come from. But all it takes is one person to start polishing that diamond and to show us that we can shine, and we can shine in different ways that we may have never even believed or thought we could. And so if that's what we can be for one person and live, we can the help people shine in so many different ways. So that's kind of one of the stories from the book that and each story deals with something very different, but each story shows that you know what, you're not alone, there's people out there that will help and can help.

39:23 And again it's about having those hard conversations and what does that look like? What a beautiful story and what a beautiful life journey I've had, color Mane, so share with us how people can contact you and they can connect with you. So I'm on LinkedIn under Carla may share Matta as well. My website is www dot carlomesharemata dot com and it's got my email on there and yeah they can connect there. And my book Youth Truth, which I've got right here. It is on Amazon and in Sparks as well, so any bookstores, So feel free to grab a book and send me an email and let me know if you need anything or want to chat about anything.

40:14 That's so powerful in Thank you for joining us and sharing your story and your heart, and we really wish you the best in this journey so that you can continue to make the impact not just on that one child, but like many many so because these are our next generation leaders who will be leading the way. So thank you for all the work you're doing. Thank you so much. Thank you, thank you for joining us, and thank you listeners for being part of our show because you are the life and blood of our show. Anything we can do to help you, reach out to us, let us know how we can support you in your life journey.

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