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This is beyond confidence and now here's your host w Park.
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Good Morning Listeners at Tuesday. And of course I'm here
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with you, so I'm thrilled and I want to share
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that today we have a very special guest, doctor Amy Daily.
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Welcome, Aby, Thank you so much for having me. I'm
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delighted to be here.
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Yeah, delighted to have you. And we usually start at
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the beginning. Do you recall a moment or a person
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who left a positive mark on you when you were
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a child or a young girl.
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Oh goodness, Yeah. I would have to say that some
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of the biggest impressions that I had as a young
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child would have been my teachers, right, And one particular
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teacher that I had, his name was mister c and
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he was a wonderful teacher that I had. I believe
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it would have been about fourth or fifth grade, and
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he was one of the first people who I think
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kind of helped me see that you can do anything,
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you can be anything, you can try things, you can fail,
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you can succeed. And I felt like he was one
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of the first people that helped me really understand the
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idea that there's like this infinite world of possibilities out there,
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and that I was the author of that, if you will.
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And I don't know that I could tell you, you know,
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anything in particular, Like there wasn't like this one moment
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or this one story. I think it was more the
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time that he spent with us and trying to find
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the individuality in every student that he had and found
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ways to bring that out and let us know that
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things that we were gifted in and how we could
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help others, and that other people might be gifted in
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other things, and that was okay, and that wasn't something
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to be sad that you didn't have, but instead relish
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in what you could bring and celebrate in what others
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could bring as well. And I just remember learning that
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at an early age from him, and it's something that's
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always kind of stuck with me.
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It was an experience. It was the culmination of those moments. Yeah,
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that's we forget that these role models that we have
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played such an important part. And that's one of the
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things that's important to know that regardless wherever you are,
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you are that leader because you are impacting someone's lives.
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So as you grew with your career direction did your
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life take?
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Oh? So I started out with a focus on wanting
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to teach, and so started out in the kindergarten classroom
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and realized that wasn't my forte but it was enjoyable.
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I liked the kids, but I think I'm such a
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completionist that I needed to see things through. So then
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I moved into high school and I taught computers for
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kids in high school and did that for a few years,
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and then someone came to me with an opportunity to
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teach adults, and I thought, now that sounds really interesting
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because then you can see it, you can teach it,
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they can turn around and go do it. It can
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have an impact in their organization. And I could see
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like the full cycle of that, right instead of waiting
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thirteen years for someone to go from kindergarten to high
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school and then wait to see what they did in
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college and so on. So I started teaching in some
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different companies like State Farm and Country companies and grow
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Mark and some really big companies in Illinois where I
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was at, and it really helped me to be able
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to understand that things that you can do in the
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workplace can have a direct impact on the business outcomes
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of the organization. And that's what really got me interested
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in learning and development from an organization standpoint. And then
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from there I moved into the healthcare side of things,
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doing the same thing teaching but within a health system,
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and was an educator there and was given an opportunity
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after a few years there, asked if I wanted to
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try and lead that function, the education function, and you know,
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like a lot of people, I thought, Wow, somebody sees
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something in me that I don't even see.
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Right.
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It wasn't I didn't have on my radar. I wanted
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to be a leader, but I really felt a sense
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of responsibility that if I was going to do this,
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I needed to have the background, the education, the expertise.
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So that's when I went back to school to get
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my master's degree and focused in on I got a
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master's in organization behavior again because I was just really
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in true by what the people in the ORG do
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to make the org be what it is, right, because
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organizations are really just a culmination of a bunch of
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people's talents brought together, you know, for a common reason.
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And so I did that and just had opportunities to
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learn and grow, went back and got my PhD in
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organization development after that, again really just honing in on
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how organizations work together, how the people, the processes, the systems,
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how everything comes together to either be effective or ineffective,
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efficient or inefficient. And learned a lot about that and
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over time in my almost twenty five year career within
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that health system. When I left there a few years
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ago to come to Children's Medical Network, I was a
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senior VP and a chief transformation officer, so really focused
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on where's the organization current state, where's the organization want
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to be in the future, figuring out the gaps between
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those two, and then figuring out what are the things
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we need to do to get from here to there?
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And that's really what or behavior in org development is right,
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whether it's the people or the systems, or the mechanisms
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or the mission. Where do you want to be? Where
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are you now? And what are you going to do
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to get there? And so I've brought all that with
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me into the role that I'm in now.
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And it's remarkable how your journey has evolved. Where you
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went for something and it comes back to that you're
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innate passion about teaching and seeing people grow and seeing
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that will impact And definitely I see that because being
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in pharmaceuticals myself, and then of course you know you
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are this part of this beautiful machine where you're bringing
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that medicine to life and saving so many lives, and
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yet is that complishness, Like when you're talking about that
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touched a chord in my heart. I want to see
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the impact immediately, and transferring to the consulting, definitely see that.
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Yeah, And that's a big you know, there's a lot
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of people who like that I went to school with
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when I was doing my PhD, who are consulting now
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and they're incredible at it, and they go out into
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these organizations and they consult and they help the organizations
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do these like quick turnarounds or massive change initiatives or
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project management rollouts. And for me, what I know is
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I think I would be a really bad consultant because
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there's a bit of a kind of a steam drawble
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out and die right that they say like, you go in,
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you do your thing, and you leave, and I'm like,
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I need I got to see it through. I want
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to see the impact. I want to see the downstream.
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That's why I love going and visiting, going into our
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member hospitals or going to our corporate partners and talking
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to the employees, because I get to see it in action,
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and that seeing that in it allows me, it just
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it fuels me to keep it going. And I often
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tell my team that instead of that be like the
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steam draw blood and died, now I'm like, I go
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in and I pick up the pollen, like off the flowers.
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Like so I'll go into a hospital and I'll see
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the things that they're doing with the money that we're
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raising for them, and I pick all of that up
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and I take it with me when I go to
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the next corporate partner or to the next big event,
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and then I can share with the donors and the
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fundraisers and the people that are supporting the programs to say, like, here,
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let me, let me give you a little bit of
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this of what I saw recently when I was over here.
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And so I love I love that, and I think
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you know you said, it's kind of important to know
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what things drive you and what motivates you and what
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matters to you. And that was one of the things
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that I learned early on about myself in my career
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is that I need to see the impact of the
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work that we're doing, and this job affords such an
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opportunity to do that on a daily basis.
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Absolutely, And that talks about bringing authenticity in your leadership,
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bringing authenticity in your life. So there's so many times
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what happens is that, especially as you're rising in the ranks,
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it can be along arduous road. Yeah, and so many
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of our women professionals will say that there is still
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that ceiling that they face sometimes. So can you share
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with us how you've maintained your authenticity and how you
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have experienced any adversities along the way, and how did
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you overcome them?
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Yeah, So the second part of the question I'll go
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to first. I feel like I have been incredibly fortunate
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in my career where I don't know that I've seen
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that as much as I've heard from other people in
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terms of feeling like there were limitations. You know, maybe
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maybe there were times where pay was a little different,
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but I don't know that I would have known that, right.
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I mean, I feel like I had so many opportunities
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open to me, whether it was going back to school,
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you know, becoming a mom, being able to still do
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all the things with the school and the PTA and
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the baseball and the cheerleading, and you know, do all
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those things while also having a very robust career at
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the same time. And I think that I know that
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it happens to people because I see it and I
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talk to friends and I hear stories. But I think
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I was fortunate that for almost twenty five years of
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my career I worked in an organization. You know, healthcare
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has a lot of women in it, like a lot,
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and so maybe I just chose the right field, but
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I worked with so many individuals where it was about
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the talent that you brought to the table, not about
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whether or not you were male or female. And I
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worked in teams that were just really great blends of people,
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and it wasn't just you know, female clinicians and male
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non clinicians. It was a mix of both. And that
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I think has been really helpful for me, because I
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think there are enough challenges in the world that we
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go through of course, that whether we're male or female,
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shouldn't you know, have to contribute to that. So I
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feel very blessed by that. So I'll say that I'll
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say that first. Secondly, I would say, when you think
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about the concept of authenticity to me, you know, I
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think sometimes you'll see people say authenticity is like a
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leadership trait or even in some of the competency models
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it's considered a competency. I don't. I don't look at
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like people say like, well, are you you a servant leader?
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Are you a transformational leader? Are you an authentic leader?
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And to me, I can't differentiate those right. To me,
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authenticity isn't a style leadership. It's it's the foundation for
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all leadership, right, whatever whatever style that is. And you
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know what I you know, as a senior vice president
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and organization when there were nine other senior vps all
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reporting to the CEO, and you kind of had your
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camaraderie of people and peers that you could work with
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and bounce things off of. And then you move into
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a CEO role for the first time, and you know,
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there's a quote out there that being the CEO is
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the loneliest job in the world, right because you're you
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You can't you don't have the peers in the same
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way you have a board in a lot of times,
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but that is, you know, a different relationship. And so
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when I became CEO, I had to there were a
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couple of things that I kept repeating to myself. One is,
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this is a marathon and not a sprint, right, And