Jan. 20, 2026

How to Stop Burning Out When You’re Good at Your Job

How to Stop Burning Out When You’re Good at Your Job
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Dr. Gokani shares her journey of running an integrative medical center, becoming a top speaker for pharmaceutical organizations, and working at the intersection of neuroscience, leadership, and performance. Along the way, she discovered a pattern most workplaces miss: people are trying to solve complex problems using only one part of their brain.

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dot com. This is beyond confidence and now here's your

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host TV Park.

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Good morning listeners. Can believe we are almost twenty days

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into the new year, and I know as the year

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gets started, whether an entrepreneur, you are a professional, you

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are thinking about the performance, you are thinking about your goals.

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So the key is.

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You are good at your job, you're doing excellent and

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while doing that, while you're doing everything right, and then

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you still might be feeling exhausted, stuck, or mentally overloaded.

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So we don't want that. So today we are going

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to be talking about how can we stop that bone out,

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how can we keep you charged and reenergized for the

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of the year. So welcome trim t.

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Thank you so much for having me, Divia, grateful to

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be here.

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Absolutely, it's so fantastic to have you so share with us.

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Do you recall a moment or a person that left

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a positive mark on you when you were a childer

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in youth?

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Oh? Yes, I'll never forget. You know, it's amazing how

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there's just these key core memories that you have and

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it was in fifth grade, it was a math teacher,

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and I really never felt that confident in math. And

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I remember there was a little bit of a math

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quiz that was going to be that day, specifically, she

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was handing out a prize for whoever did well on

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the quiz, and I happened to just beyond that day

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did well on the quiz, and she looked me in

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the eyes, gave me the prize and said, you were

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the top score in the class. Keep it up. You've

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got such a strong brain. And you know that statement

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as you know a young adult. It was so remarkable

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because I still remember that moment. I remember thinking, I

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have a strong brain, like no one ever said that

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to me. And yeah, here I am fifty four years old.

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I'm thinking back to that day and how powerful our

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words are when we say them, and especially with intense

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and with sincere focus to another individual.

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That is so powerful.

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And we underestimate the power of teachers in our students' lives.

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And I have so many moments that I still recall

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that they're just such poignant, poignant memories and leave such

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a beautiful mark on you. So as you grew did

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you know that you wanted to go into medicine?

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Don't know. I actually I appreciated the confidence boosting that

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I had the strong brain, and that gave me this

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impetus to actually work a little harder because she saw

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something in me I didn't see in myself. Right, And

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as I got into medical middle school and then high school,

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I ended up befriending somebody who would now to this

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day be one of my most inspiring friends. Because she

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loved learning, she loved She would always be the one

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that in the front of the class would say, can

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I choose a spot, you know, in one of these

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three seats so I could look at the you know,

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instructor and ask questions. And I always think, gosh, she

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was so hard working and so interested in learning. Let

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me kind of work with her and study with her.

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And so eventually we both went off for different directions,

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and she ended up doing our PhD in neurosciences and

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I started actually in the business school at the university,

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and I still craved science, and we had kind of

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gone different directions. I didn't realize I ended up going

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into neurology that she was getting her PhD in neurosciences.

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So obviously she had an impact on me. Yet medicine

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wasn't the first pursuit of mine. It was actually, you know,

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kind of almost a last choice for me, which is

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interesting because yeah, you know, they say like there's no

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such thing as failure as a feedback, well, I kind

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of didn't necessarily fail business school, yet I didn't really

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like it. It didn't align with me, and I thought

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I was going to love it, and I didn't, And

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I said, you know what, I really loved it. I

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loved learning about science. And so eventually I transitioned over

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from business school to biology and graduated in that field

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and then went to medical school. So it was kind

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of a path that was, you know, not a straight path.

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And who says life is a straight path, right?

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It shouldn't be.

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It shouldn't be. And the beauty of life is that

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if you're open and curious and come at it with

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awe wonder, you can be surprised. What can you learn

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from it? You know, what you can experience. So think

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about it if you hadn't taken that chance. And if

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you're like, oh, I've already spent my time in business

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school and I'm not going to eat you know, I've

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wasted these years because I have so many of my

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clients whoill come and say that I don't want to

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take this action because I don't waste that time. And

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as you mentioned, it's not a failure, it's an experience.

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It's it's a learning and life doesn't come with instruction manual.

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Yeah, myself as well, you know, I don't know as well.

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Sometimes those experiences allow us to get deeper into our

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truth of who we are, which I think is very powerful.

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M hm.

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So when you went into medical school, did you ever

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think that, Oh, I wish I hadn't gone to the

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business school.

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I definitely had some challenges because actually the reason I

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wrote my second book, The Stress RX, was because of

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my experience in my first year of medical school. My

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dad's a physician retired now. I grew up with physicians,

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you know, and I was very comfortable with the medical

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profession and the fact that that seemed achievable for me

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simply because I had a lot of role models that

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were in that profession.

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Interesting enough, because knock on wood, I'd never really had

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any medical challenges. I never went to see the physician

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unless it was a school form or something that was

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a routine exam to do, and I don't think I

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really understood what it was like to be a physician

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or to be a patient. So I went into it

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because I like science. And this is, you know, thirty

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years ago. I don't think, you know, look at my

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kids now, and I think about your kids now and

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everyone else that's listening. These younger adults have so many

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unique opportunities that I think are available to them. And

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I don't know if we knew at that time that

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we had so many opportunities. I almost feel like, especially

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as an Indian woman, you know, engineering, business, medicine, there

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weren't that many paths that I thought I could take.

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So I just said, Okay, I don't like business school,

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let me go to medical school. I went to medical school.

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First year of medical school, I started struggling with sleep issues,

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very very very severe, very severe, to a point where

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I was going to quit. And that's where I thought.

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I'd put so much effort with the MCAT exams, with

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the applications, with just the incredible academia to get and

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test tests that I had to succeed and then pass

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and do well in the classes to get into medical school.

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I thought, my goodness, if I turn away from this Now,

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I had so many friends that wanted to go to

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medical school that didn't get in. How could I turn

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away from it? It was struggling with sleep and I

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think that was my book wake up was, Okay, you're

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having this condition, you're struggling with symptoms. Maybe there's something

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in this path you need to learn. And that's when

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I saw the therapist and the therapist asked me if

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I was stressed, and I said no. And the reason

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I wrote the second book is I realized we really

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don't know a lot about stress, and we don't know

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enough about how stress impacts our body. And only now

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are we starting to dig into this more with understanding

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mental health and stress in a way that we never

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have before.

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So you talk about the different stress personality types, tell

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us a little bit more about it.

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Yeah, So this to me was my big ah huh.

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You know, when I was a first year medical student

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and my dad's a physician. As I mentioned, he did

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my exam, he examined me, got my labs and he said, Trufty,

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you're fine, even though you know you're having sleep issues.

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Your exam is fine. Your labs are all coming out

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to be fine. There's no blood sugar is sshoes, no

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thyroid issues. There's nothing wrong with you, and for anyone listening,

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and you know, if you've experienced this yourself, when you're

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struggling with something, you actually want to find something you're

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looking for some reason, I didn't want to be told

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that I was fine. I actually wanted to be told

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there was this wrong with me. And yet it wasn't

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a concrete medical finding or diagnosis because I was in

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that in between world of not physical yet there was

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an emotional stress component that couldn't be picked up on

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a lab exam or by examining the physical body. So

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the stress personality has really come out of me discovering

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myself and realizing that. In Eastern argiapadic medicine, which is

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five thousand years old, Iyor means life Inva that means wisdom.

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It's the wisdom of your knowing your life and your

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longevity by knowing who you are and of the arivetic wisdom.

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There's these five elements air, space, fire, earth, and water

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that make up who we are. And my nature was

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being pushed out of alignment and my energy body, which

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I know is kind of little woo, my energetic system

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was out of alignment and my stress was showing. We

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call it the windy personality. I was moving and going

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and doing too much, thus having promt sleeping and falling asleep.

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And once I understood that was what was wrong with me,

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I then was able to course correct, change my diet,

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change my lifestyle, habits, changed so many things about me,

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and within about two months I was sleeping again without medications.

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So you're talking about that.

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When we talk about different stressed personalities, those are based

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off the aerobatic, the five different elements, and then one

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of the elements is out of balance and then it

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manifests or expresses itself in physical symptoms.

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Yeah.

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So is Mander standing correct?

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Correct?

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Yeah?

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And I think that's something that if we can start

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to link a symptom as a suggestion to go in

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and to understand which of those five elements is speaking.

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The body's always communicating with us. And yet what's beautiful

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and yet not really utilized, is that we have this

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five thousand year old science that actually tells you. It's

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like the recipe book of trying to figure out what

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is that or the playbook or the manual I should say,

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of what does that symptom actually mean, what's the root

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of that imbalance coming from? And the challenge of Western

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medicine is that we wait for the physical body or

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the labs to go out of alignment, and then we

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diagnose and then we medicate, oftentimes when there's actually a

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long window of time where the system is out of alignment,

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and if we can capture that. Here, I am fifty

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four years old and thankfully sleeping well, I'm on no medications,

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I know what to do.

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So for our audience, how can they get started if

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you can share some basics?

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So stepone, I do think it's helpful to know what

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is your stressed personality. I often start with what is

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your imbalance? So then we can bring you back into balance.

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and the quiz is basically a quick little quiz that

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just helps you figure out which stress state are you windy,

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fire or earthy. The five elements airspace, fire, earth, and water.

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The air and space element comes together to create an

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energy known as the vata vata vata energy. The fire

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and water come together to the pitta personality or energy,

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and the earth and water come together to create the

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kafa kapha kafa personality or energy. At baseline, if I'm

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in alignment with my fire energy, I'm sharp and focused,

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direct and clear. My digestive system is strong. I have

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a good appetite. I digest foods well, I eliminate toxins well. Beautiful.

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If my wind energy lots of energy, is in alignment,

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I'm creative. I'm inspirational. I'm coming up with great ideas.

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I'm a thinker. I'm the one you want in the

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room to come up with a unique tagline for a

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marketing ad. You know. I'm artistic, I am musical. I'm

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somebody that loves to jump into different things, and I'll

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say yes to a lot of things to help you out.

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That's the wind that's in alignment. And then in terms

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of digestion, the wind oftentimes doesn't really get a strong

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fire the ugony at all times, like the fire is

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always the pittatype is always has a strong fire at lunchtime,

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the wind may kind of fluctuate up and down with

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their fire. The cough of the earthy type, a little

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more introspective kind of the quieter deep thinker, the one

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that's going to have really interesting thoughts when they do speak,

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because there's a lot of thinking cough ought. Earth energy

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allows you to get really introspective. So that person may

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not talk a lot as much as the vata, yet

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that individual has some really important things to say when

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they do speak because they've been thinking through processing, receiving,

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their digestive system is a little bit more stable and calm.

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a little bit more mindful of how much they eat,

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not over consuming, yet they dent to digest well. So

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with this whole the three energy states, first thing is

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to start thinking. Number one, am I in alignment or

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out of alignment? And if I'm out of alignment, the

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quiz tells you how far out of alignment, so that

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when that's in harmony, that's creative and thinking. If you

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go too much movement, you skip those meals because you

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don't feel hungry, you start to drink a lot of

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cold drinks. You could start to get racy and anxious

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and constipated and bloated. The fire if it gets too

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fire and heat up and driven and intense, and maybe

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demands too much from the meetings and it's over intense

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during the meetings and wanting to share their thoughts and

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only their thoughts are the right energy or the right answer.

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Then that person can actually get hot headed and heat

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it in angry and fiery and nausea and reflux and migraines.

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they can get sluggish and depressed and kind of what

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we call the cougha cough, you know, congested. So it's

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actually fascinating. But step one is to know what is

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your person I look like now, and then you go backwards.

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A lot of people want to figure out what the

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baseline perfect state is, and I say, it's almost like

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going to the eye doctor getting new pair of glasses.

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Figure out what the prescription is, like, what is your imbalance,

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what's your imbalanced you know kind of prescription, and then

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bring it back and bring yourself into clarity. And that

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the best I think for most people, that makes sense.

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So what I'm hearing is that explore, you know where

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things may be out of alignment, and then bring it

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Few different things that you have talked about whether it is.

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Food and that and the discipline of habit, so you

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also talk about patterns that most employers miss out as

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far as the stress pattern is concerned, tell us about that.

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oftentimes I'm going to say one thing. We because we

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live in a world where performance is key. Being present,

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being at your best, putting on that smile, you know,

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pushing yourself through things, being productive or perceived as productive

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is really important. As you know, working individual, ofttimes we

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tend to suppress symptoms. So as I'm mentioning these three imbalances,

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keep in mind that very many times when I mid individuals,

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they tend to suppress their emotions. They suppress. What I'm

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getting at is fear or worry or anxiety tends to

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get suppressed. Anger gets to get suppressed and pushed into

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the system the physical body and manifested. As for example

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of migraine, I do a lot of migraine work. Anger

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turned inwards right can actually create on immune disease. And

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start to see the cough of earthy energy, the anhadonic state.

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be put in an environment where we have to hold

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back from what are we're really feeling, you know, So

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not being able to see an imbalance because a lot

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of people don't express their imbalances openly. So that's step one.

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I'm going to encourage everyone here to start to just

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number one, become aware if you're holding things, if you're

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holding anxiety, fear, anger, depression, to start to let yourself

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become vulnerable and open, not to everybody at the office

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and to everyone in your workplace, to the one trusted friend.

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There was a study that was speaking to a law

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firm that looked at if you have one trusted friend

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in your office, your likelihood of leaving that workplace, you know,

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is reduced by seventy percent. You know. So having that

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trusted person, having that person you can just vent to

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and share with and say, gosh, this is so difficult

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to go through, allows you to become more vulnerable and

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open with your energetic, emotional body. So part of the

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perspective shift is to know that we are holding back

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when you start to express yourself. What often if you're

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one of the leaders or managers, you don't see is

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you know, because the employer or the person is working

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with you is not sharing. Sometimes we need to lean

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in and we need to ask, how are you feeling

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about that? Hey, you know, you lost your pet. And

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was in a coaching group and one of my coaching

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clients lost her dog, and she just seemed kind of

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quiet on the calls, you know, and she was always

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really chatty, and she was quiet. And I finally said,

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and she was in a group and a safe group

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that she had known for a while, and I said, hey,

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you know so and so you seem very quiet. Are

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you doing okay after losing your pet? She burst into

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tears in front of everybody. And it was so touching

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and helpful because the call was going to go in

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a different direction. We were going to talk about it

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different first topic on that coaching call. The entire conversation

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turned into processing emotions after loss, and it was very

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helpful because she could share and as trusted safe environment

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with this group. And I think that is something that

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we as leaders need to do. We need to recognize

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that someone may not be obviously showing anxiety, fear, anger.

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If they are, please lean in. But if they're not,

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lean in again if you think you need to, and

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we should be more perceptive. And I think that's part

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of what working on us does. That's why the Eastern

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medicine approach is first, work on you, right. I think

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the Roomly quote is, you know, once I was clever,

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I wanted to change the world. Now that I'm whyse

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I change myself. So first step is to work on

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you and then start to work on others. And I

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think if we can all do that, we can be

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more effective in terms of our workplace, our teams and

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helping others clear what they're going through and then they

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become stronger employees and individuals and coworkers and partners you

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know to work with.

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looking for patterns if people are not uncomfortable and creating

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that culture, creating that safe space so people can open up.

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And it doesn't have.

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To be like airing your dirty laundry like you know,

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so many times people will say, oh, you've got to

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be authentic. Authentic doesn't mean every single thing that you

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need you're going through to put it out there. Right.

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At the same token, if there are times when you

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are experiencing distress, it's important to bring it up and

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work through it. So right, and as you have talked

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about right, like you've talked about the performance that today's

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modern culture does reward the cognitive effort.

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So how can.

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Professions leaders, or for that matter, anyone, how can they

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recognize their instinctive system that Okay, something is off and

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what can they do about it?

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in terms of the work from home, but not having

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the human contact. It was a lot easier in the

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days we'd go into the office and see each other. Right,

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it was a lot easier when we could look at

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someone and talk to them and pick up on things.

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And now, you know, when you think about this idea

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of presenteeism versus absenteeism, and individuals are working from home

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and maybe not fully there, even though their computer is on,

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they're logged in, their inboxes open, their slack channel is open,

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but they're not really often there. And so we looked

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at and I was thinking actually even of some migraine

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individuals that in the middle of a migraine yet couldn't

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take a day off because they were working on some

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project that needed to get completed. And they would say

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to me that I tried to focus. I mean I tried.

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I tried to concentrate during the meetings. I tried to contribute,

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yet my head was just throbbing, severe pain and severe nausea.

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I couldn't even I couldn't even barely sit. I was dizzy.

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So you try to imagine, and so from the perspective

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of the employer or the individual running the meeting, back

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to being present. Number one, checking in with yourself first, pausing,

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reflecting on your team, not doing all the talking, letting

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everyone contribute. If someone is not contributing, lean in and

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ask them, are you okay everything I write with you

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right now? If you're noticing that when they do contribute,

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they're talking very fast, or they seem to be in

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a state where their system is not in alignment. And

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this takes perception. This isn't something you know. It takes

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getting to know a person right, getting to know what

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their baseline is, to know when they're out of alignment.

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So talking really fast, interestingly enough, is one of the

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vasa imbalances. You know, if I'm using my hands a

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lot and talking like this and going no da, I'm

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kind of anxious because I'm not able to maintain my

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energetic system in a calm and balanced state. So I

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start talking faster and moving faster. That's part of my

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wind energy imbalance. So my mom is interesting. She used

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to say to me, trip D, you talk so fast.

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I have no idea how any of your patients are

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going to understand you. And this is when I was

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in medical school. She was the first person to pick

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up on my vata imbalance, my wind imbalance. That's a

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classic wind I would talk so fast, right, And I

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just said, Mom, I have so much in my brain

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to get out. I have so much to say. She said,

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your patients won't understand you. And she was giving me

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that early diagnosis. You know, my dad, the doctor said

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you have nothing wrong with you. My mom said, no,

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there's something wrong with you. And so I didn't know

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what the nomenclature was at that time, but I was

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starting to learn about the wind of balance. And this

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is actually before medical schools, when I was applying to

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medical school. She said that right, And then when I

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got to medical school, that's why I've read the books

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on Arriveda, and that's how I really discovered are Youveda?

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Actually I didn't tell you. This pit stop I made

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between the therapist and learning about Veda was actually the

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psychiatrist office. And my dad took me to his best friend,

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a psychiatrist, and in ten minutes, the psychiatrist diagnosed me

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with depression and gave me prozac. And I said, no,

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thank you, I'm not doing this. And I didn't believe

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the diagnosis. I didn't believe in the prescription that I

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just was for me. If anyone there out there is

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taking a prescription or has a diagnosis, please this is

466
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just my personal story. For me, it didn't make sense.

467
00:25:03.480 --> 00:25:05.960
I ripped up the prescription and then I decided to

468
00:25:05.960 --> 00:25:08.079
go to the bookstores because that's all we had thirty

469
00:25:08.160 --> 00:25:10.559
years ago. We didn't have social media, and you know,

470
00:25:10.640 --> 00:25:12.680
we had very little with the Internet going on, and

471
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not a lot of resources. Right, So since the bookstore

472
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went to self help instruction and I found books on

473
00:25:17.920 --> 00:25:20.920
Easter medicine, and because my mom would say things like

474
00:25:20.960 --> 00:25:23.319
you talk so fast and all that when the book

475
00:25:23.359 --> 00:25:29.079
started talking about write language was written about movement energy,

476
00:25:29.160 --> 00:25:32.559
wind energy imbalance. The vats of windy state is when

477
00:25:32.559 --> 00:25:38.200
you start talking faster, moving faster, you skip meals, you

478
00:25:38.279 --> 00:25:42.400
don't feel hungry because you're moving all the time. That's

479
00:25:42.440 --> 00:25:45.720
a retilian brain response. You know, as a neurologist, I

480
00:25:45.759 --> 00:25:48.160
think about the brain, and I think about the prefrontal cortex.

481
00:25:48.240 --> 00:25:52.000
Is that highest level of ourselves that when you're operating

482
00:25:52.000 --> 00:26:00.799
from prefrontal you're in that really perspective of all sensory

483
00:26:01.119 --> 00:26:05.720
systems are on. You're hearing, you're feeling, You're able to

484
00:26:05.759 --> 00:26:08.680
perceive touch and smell and sounds really well because the

485
00:26:08.680 --> 00:26:12.599
prefilg of cortex is on in a very balanced manner.

486
00:26:12.759 --> 00:26:16.279
When the revertilian brain turns on, the senses churn up.

487
00:26:16.440 --> 00:26:20.319
But what they're looking for is danger. And so that

488
00:26:20.960 --> 00:26:24.960
windy excitable state, it's almost like that freeze state. Your

489
00:26:24.960 --> 00:26:27.119
body gets tight, your neck gets tight, you start talking

490
00:26:27.119 --> 00:26:30.640
faster and moving faster. And so for me, that was

491
00:26:30.680 --> 00:26:33.000
that state I was in, and thankfully my mom kind

492
00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:34.319
of picked that up. And then I read the books

493
00:26:34.359 --> 00:26:36.359
and said, okay, let's work on my wind energy state.

494
00:26:37.599 --> 00:26:39.880
And so I haven't. Kind of I went out of

495
00:26:39.920 --> 00:26:41.839
the tangent was your original question. But that's kind of

496
00:26:41.839 --> 00:26:44.559
how I kind of used AREUVA that to helped figure

497
00:26:44.599 --> 00:26:47.079
myself out and hopefully the listeners are understanding this. A

498
00:26:47.119 --> 00:26:49.240
lot of it is based on understanding are you in flight,

499
00:26:49.519 --> 00:26:52.839
fight or freeze? And if you're in flight state, that's

500
00:26:52.839 --> 00:26:55.799
the withdrawn kafa. If you're in fight, that's the fiery pitsha.

501
00:26:55.920 --> 00:26:59.200
If you're in free state, that's the windy kind of

502
00:26:59.240 --> 00:27:02.799
vata state. And we often go into state. So as

503
00:27:02.799 --> 00:27:07.119
an employer, is your individual going into state? You know

504
00:27:07.160 --> 00:27:09.519
they're being really quiet, are they talking really fast? Are

505
00:27:09.559 --> 00:27:12.759
they really angry and irritable on the calls? Are they

506
00:27:12.759 --> 00:27:15.319
sending you slack messages that are kind of off putting

507
00:27:15.440 --> 00:27:17.920
or others in the team emails that are kind of

508
00:27:17.960 --> 00:27:23.119
sharp and somewhat you know aggressive. That's how you pick.

509
00:27:23.000 --> 00:27:32.079
Up Yeah, and so coming you mentioned that, So how

510
00:27:32.119 --> 00:27:34.200
did you integrate.

511
00:27:35.720 --> 00:27:36.359
These things?

512
00:27:36.359 --> 00:27:39.640
Like, you know, you talk about integrative medicine into your

513
00:27:39.680 --> 00:27:40.799
neurology practice.

514
00:27:42.559 --> 00:27:45.359
So it was almost as if I couldn't unsee what

515
00:27:45.400 --> 00:27:48.599
I had seen. You know, once you delve into this information,

516
00:27:48.759 --> 00:27:51.640
once you I basically healed myself. To be frank with you,

517
00:27:52.319 --> 00:27:55.519
I knew this knowledge was there. I hadn't gotten certified

518
00:27:55.559 --> 00:27:58.279
in are Evettic medicine. I just started becoming a voracious

519
00:27:58.319 --> 00:28:02.119
reader and listener to everything I could, lectures and conversations

520
00:28:02.119 --> 00:28:04.640
and books. My free time, I just kept reading our

521
00:28:04.680 --> 00:28:07.880
Evetic books. And then I got into my neurology practice

522
00:28:07.880 --> 00:28:10.240
and I was working in the headache clinic. It was

523
00:28:10.319 --> 00:28:14.039
a tertiary third line headache clinic, meaning patients had already

524
00:28:14.039 --> 00:28:18.160
failed their primary doctor, they'd failed their traditional neurologist, and

525
00:28:18.200 --> 00:28:20.799
they were saying us as specialist, and we were this

526
00:28:20.839 --> 00:28:22.880
is you know, quite a long time ago, twenty thirty

527
00:28:22.920 --> 00:28:25.039
years ago. It was a fee for service clinic. It's

528
00:28:25.039 --> 00:28:27.920
when concierge medicine. Now it's a more concierge style. Very

529
00:28:27.920 --> 00:28:30.240
few doctors were doing this. It was very rare to

530
00:28:30.279 --> 00:28:32.839
do a fee for service clinic. And I'm working on

531
00:28:32.920 --> 00:28:35.599
this clinic. A little intimidating to come out of neurology

532
00:28:35.599 --> 00:28:38.000
training to work at a fee for service clinic. I

533
00:28:38.000 --> 00:28:39.759
mean that patients were like, I'm paying out of pocket,

534
00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:42.920
you better help me, right, And what's happening in that

535
00:28:43.000 --> 00:28:46.359
practice was patients were failing Male clinic. They're failing all

536
00:28:46.359 --> 00:28:49.160
these top clinics. Stanford coming to us saying, what can

537
00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:51.319
you do for us that those doctors hadn't done, and

538
00:28:51.359 --> 00:28:54.359
I'm paying you in cash. So we started doing things

539
00:28:54.359 --> 00:28:58.400
that were novel, you know, botox, bachulatin, toxin injections, which

540
00:28:58.480 --> 00:29:03.119
were completely you know at that point, yeah, yeah, but

541
00:29:03.160 --> 00:29:04.680
they got up to improved in twenty ten. And this

542
00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:07.079
is back in two thousand. We were injecting botox, this

543
00:29:07.160 --> 00:29:10.519
peptide called CGRP, which is actually pro inflammatory peptide meaning

544
00:29:10.559 --> 00:29:12.839
the gut, but we were blocking that peptide. We were

545
00:29:12.880 --> 00:29:16.039
doing different novel treatments. Yet the one thing is a

546
00:29:16.039 --> 00:29:19.160
lot of patients were being prescribed narcotics because this is

547
00:29:19.160 --> 00:29:23.200
in two thousand, this is when Purdue Pharma O content

548
00:29:23.759 --> 00:29:27.000
was being recommended for pain, for all sorts of pain.

549
00:29:27.759 --> 00:29:30.519
The pain meetings and if you've seen you know, Dope

550
00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:32.559
Sick with Michael Keaton, one of the best I think

551
00:29:32.799 --> 00:29:34.480
when it comes to looking at this whole thing from

552
00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:38.400
riven perspectives, from the physician perspective, the Seculer family, looking

553
00:29:38.440 --> 00:29:41.920
at the physicians, looking at the reps, drug reps, and

554
00:29:41.920 --> 00:29:44.200
looking at the patient perspective. It was a very complicated

555
00:29:44.200 --> 00:29:47.000
time in terms of how to manage pain. These patients

556
00:29:47.000 --> 00:29:49.720
were asking for more and more pain medications. I got

557
00:29:49.759 --> 00:29:53.920
nervous because I knew about Ariveda now said I can't

558
00:29:54.000 --> 00:29:56.759
keep giving these medications in high doses, even though the

559
00:29:56.759 --> 00:29:58.599
doctors are saying there's no upper limit, because that's what

560
00:29:58.599 --> 00:30:01.759
we were being told. You know your limit. In fact, doctor,

561
00:30:01.799 --> 00:30:03.839
you might be under treating pain if you don't give

562
00:30:03.920 --> 00:30:07.039
enough these medications. So be careful. Your patient could get

563
00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:09.240
you in trouble with the board if you don't give

564
00:30:09.279 --> 00:30:11.119
them enough pain medication. That was a messaging when we're

565
00:30:11.160 --> 00:30:13.759
hearing there's a Compassionate Care Act. It was a very

566
00:30:13.960 --> 00:30:17.519
very challenging time. Okay, So I said, I don't know.

567
00:30:17.559 --> 00:30:19.440
I'm going to trust my gut, just like I trusted

568
00:30:19.480 --> 00:30:21.519
my gut with that psychiatrist that gave me the prozac.

569
00:30:21.599 --> 00:30:24.839
I can't give these patients these narcotics. So I'm going

570
00:30:24.880 --> 00:30:28.599
to learn are you Veda? So you know my husband

571
00:30:28.640 --> 00:30:30.920
who was really kind of done with me studying because

572
00:30:30.960 --> 00:30:33.119
I had just finished my board exams and just had

573
00:30:33.160 --> 00:30:35.359
a new baby, and I said to him, I'm going

574
00:30:35.400 --> 00:30:39.119
to go train in Ariveda. He said, are you kidding me? Now?

575
00:30:40.279 --> 00:30:41.039
You have no time?

576
00:30:41.519 --> 00:30:43.240
What are you doing? And I said, I just I

577
00:30:43.279 --> 00:30:45.720
have to because I can't give these patients these narcotics.

578
00:30:45.880 --> 00:30:47.440
So how did I integrate it. I went back and

579
00:30:47.440 --> 00:30:50.079
got certified in Aruvedic medicine and I started to bring

580
00:30:50.200 --> 00:30:53.799
the knowledge bit by bit into the practice. I knew

581
00:30:53.839 --> 00:30:56.319
that giving narcotic medications wasn't going to be good for

582
00:30:56.359 --> 00:30:59.960
these patients long term. You know, we think with these

583
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:02.960
even copy the seven habits of highly effective. The second

584
00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:05.279
one is begin with the end in mind. I knew

585
00:31:05.279 --> 00:31:09.440
that giving a twenty three year old oxycontent and giving

586
00:31:09.480 --> 00:31:11.880
them three tablets a day to take care of their

587
00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:14.079
chronic daily headaches, was it going to be good for

588
00:31:14.119 --> 00:31:16.359
them when they turned twenty four to twenty five, twenty six,

589
00:31:16.400 --> 00:31:19.160
and thirty forty. Who knows? You know? I said this

590
00:31:19.200 --> 00:31:21.839
can't be good for somebody. So I said, I have

591
00:31:21.880 --> 00:31:24.079
to find a route for these individuals and chronic pain.

592
00:31:24.200 --> 00:31:27.559
And I found this amazing way to bring in our Veda.

593
00:31:28.039 --> 00:31:31.680
And then eventually I left that clinic opened my own practice,

594
00:31:31.759 --> 00:31:34.799
and I did not prescribe any narcotics in my clinical

595
00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:38.039
practice and I felt really proud of that. I had

596
00:31:38.039 --> 00:31:40.039
some patients that came from other clinics that were taking

597
00:31:40.200 --> 00:31:42.200
a little talelong three, a little of this all that.

598
00:31:42.680 --> 00:31:45.440
Eventually I was able to get them off those medications,

599
00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:48.839
and I proved to myself and the patients there's another way.

600
00:31:49.640 --> 00:31:52.920
Yet it was kind of a journey. It was a journey,

601
00:31:53.880 --> 00:31:55.960
no real manual on how to do that. I just

602
00:31:56.039 --> 00:31:59.480
kind of followed a path, trusted my gut, and came

603
00:31:59.480 --> 00:32:01.519
back and said they felt better, So, you know.

604
00:32:02.319 --> 00:32:02.720
And why not?

605
00:32:03.400 --> 00:32:06.359
So talk about the three brain systems. Tell us about

606
00:32:06.400 --> 00:32:10.000
that and how our audience can use it to improve

607
00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:10.640
their lives.

608
00:32:11.000 --> 00:32:13.480
Yeah. So Step one is getting to know your stressed personality.

609
00:32:13.559 --> 00:32:16.839
I'm I windy, fiery, earthy. Step two, once you've kind

610
00:32:16.839 --> 00:32:18.799
of gotten that, Okay, I'm running really fire, I'm real

611
00:32:18.920 --> 00:32:24.279
fire type individual. Where in my system am I carrying

612
00:32:24.279 --> 00:32:27.640
most of that energy? Okay? And the three brain model.

613
00:32:27.880 --> 00:32:31.480
I looked back during pandemic when I'd closed my clinical practice,

614
00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:33.599
closed the brick and mortar operation, and said, I'm going

615
00:32:33.640 --> 00:32:36.319
to try to just do this virtually via zoom and

616
00:32:36.359 --> 00:32:39.319
coaching and that are done coaching or work before, and

617
00:32:39.400 --> 00:32:41.279
so let's see if we can kind of package this.

618
00:32:41.440 --> 00:32:43.640
Let's look at the patients that performed the best and

619
00:32:43.640 --> 00:32:45.720
the coaching clients that performed the best over the years

620
00:32:46.319 --> 00:32:48.440
they were using this three brain model. So let's go

621
00:32:48.480 --> 00:32:51.079
back to the fire. I'm really fired up? Where am

622
00:32:51.079 --> 00:32:54.119
I holding the most fire? Is it in my first brain,

623
00:32:54.160 --> 00:32:56.440
which the central nervous system I call the first brain?

624
00:32:56.559 --> 00:33:00.400
Is how we think, how we process the world, and

625
00:33:00.440 --> 00:33:06.759
how we process our external environments. Do we process things

626
00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:09.920
in a way that triggers us to believe that there

627
00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:15.000
is danger and I turn into more that fiery personality.

628
00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:17.519
Do I look at things in a way where I've

629
00:33:17.559 --> 00:33:20.640
been inherited a pattern, from a pattern to think in

630
00:33:20.680 --> 00:33:25.559
an aggressive almost that reptilian angry brain response. Is that

631
00:33:25.640 --> 00:33:29.759
how I'm programmed to react, And there's no disrespect. It's

632
00:33:29.759 --> 00:33:32.279
not that we've chosen this program. This is often an

633
00:33:32.440 --> 00:33:36.279
unconscious program that we've picked up before age ten, because

634
00:33:36.279 --> 00:33:39.559
our brain waves before age ten are in this theta

635
00:33:39.799 --> 00:33:43.799
delta brainwave pattern. Like sponges. We pick up patterns for

636
00:33:43.960 --> 00:33:47.440
our mom our dad, our caretakers, our teachers, are you know,

637
00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:49.079
maybe the people you know that you're spending a lot

638
00:33:49.079 --> 00:33:51.640
of time within church. Who knows, But you pick up

639
00:33:51.680 --> 00:33:54.440
patterns your friends, and if you spend a lot of

640
00:33:54.440 --> 00:33:57.599
time with individuals and you're around individuals that give you

641
00:33:57.640 --> 00:34:00.599
a program, you may have a program that more in

642
00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:03.160
that alignments that you tend to go to more reactive,

643
00:34:03.200 --> 00:34:07.119
angry state. And there's nothing wrong. You haven't chosen that.

644
00:34:07.160 --> 00:34:10.880
It's just who you are, just owning that. So number

645
00:34:10.920 --> 00:34:13.159
one is first brain, how do we think, how do

646
00:34:13.159 --> 00:34:15.400
we perceive, and how do we see the world. It

647
00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:18.039
can be the same external event. I get really pissed

648
00:34:18.079 --> 00:34:21.079
off and angry about it. Someone else gets anxious, another

649
00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:24.519
gets depressed, another stays neutral. Most external events are actually

650
00:34:24.559 --> 00:34:26.960
pretty neutral when it comes to how they how they

651
00:34:27.119 --> 00:34:30.360
really relate to us. There's a lot of things happening

652
00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:31.880
in the world, don't get me wrong, a lot of

653
00:34:31.880 --> 00:34:34.599
things every moment, trying the newser's things happening. When it

654
00:34:34.599 --> 00:34:39.079
comes to affecting us, think about your own being. If

655
00:34:39.119 --> 00:34:41.639
it's not affecting you directly, do you go into state

656
00:34:41.679 --> 00:34:44.519
and stay there? That's your first brain thinking. Second is

657
00:34:44.519 --> 00:34:47.480
how you feel. That's the enteric nervous system. That's the

658
00:34:47.519 --> 00:34:49.719
two hundred and six hundred million uns are within your

659
00:34:49.760 --> 00:34:54.440
gut that are sensing feelings. In fact, we feel first

660
00:34:54.440 --> 00:34:56.960
before we think. So when you walk into a room,

661
00:34:57.320 --> 00:35:00.280
you know, you step near somebody and you feel certain

662
00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:04.280
way about them. This is happening at like microseconds, so

663
00:35:04.559 --> 00:35:06.840
fast you will feel and then you'll create a thought

664
00:35:06.880 --> 00:35:09.519
about that person. And we're doing this with the amygdala

665
00:35:09.639 --> 00:35:11.719
that are in the brain. They're actually carrying kind of

666
00:35:11.719 --> 00:35:15.320
the the storage centers of emotions from years past, and

667
00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:18.840
they're often going to carry kind of some emotions that

668
00:35:18.920 --> 00:35:21.719
maybe that person remind you of someone you know, or

669
00:35:21.719 --> 00:35:24.239
maybe there's something about their body or their language that

670
00:35:24.360 --> 00:35:26.400
kind of makes you feel a certain way. There's a

671
00:35:26.400 --> 00:35:29.440
pattern recognition there, so we feel. So second brain is

672
00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:32.000
how you feel, and then the third brain is how

673
00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:35.519
you digest your microbio. And so what I realized in

674
00:35:35.559 --> 00:35:39.159
my patients and my coaching clients is that some individuals

675
00:35:39.679 --> 00:35:42.039
had more of a gut impellance that need to be

676
00:35:42.039 --> 00:35:44.519
work on worked on because they were eating, for example,

677
00:35:44.519 --> 00:35:47.400
back to fire, they're eating fiery foods, a lot of spices,

678
00:35:47.400 --> 00:35:50.039
a lot of heating foods. They were skipping their meals.

679
00:35:50.079 --> 00:35:52.440
They were skipping lunch, which is the most important meal

680
00:35:52.480 --> 00:35:55.320
for the fire type, and those patterns need to be changed.

681
00:35:56.039 --> 00:36:01.639
Some were blocking their emotions. They were holding really some deep,

682
00:36:01.719 --> 00:36:05.119
deep emotions of guilt or shame, and they're really angry

683
00:36:05.159 --> 00:36:07.719
maybe with things that happened in their past or they

684
00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:09.880
did that they think they did that. They're not letting

685
00:36:09.960 --> 00:36:13.360
go of and not forgiving themselves over. Some people were

686
00:36:13.400 --> 00:36:16.519
holding thought patterns that weren't aligning with them. I can't

687
00:36:16.559 --> 00:36:18.480
do that. I have to be that way. I must

688
00:36:18.480 --> 00:36:20.840
be that way. That's a very classic fire type, that

689
00:36:20.960 --> 00:36:24.880
perfectionistic mindset, right, I can't do anything wrong, you know.

690
00:36:25.280 --> 00:36:27.920
And so part of is figuring out which of those

691
00:36:27.920 --> 00:36:31.320
three brains is most effective and then to start to

692
00:36:31.480 --> 00:36:33.760
balance out those three. And that's what I have a

693
00:36:33.800 --> 00:36:35.760
three brain quiz, and that's for the more advanced coaching

694
00:36:35.800 --> 00:36:38.000
clients where I look into three brains and say, okay,

695
00:36:38.039 --> 00:36:40.280
based on what you know about your fire type, which

696
00:36:40.280 --> 00:36:41.480
of these do you want to work on? Because you

697
00:36:41.480 --> 00:36:42.880
can't work on all three at the same time. It's

698
00:36:42.880 --> 00:36:45.320
a little bit tough to three if that makes sense.

699
00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:48.119
If that makes sense, yeah, absolutely, so.

700
00:36:49.800 --> 00:36:52.719
Love to think about They want to, like apond and

701
00:36:52.960 --> 00:36:57.760
put it into practice. So tell us more about your books,

702
00:36:57.840 --> 00:37:00.000
Where can people contact you?

703
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So the books came from having this knowledge and wanting

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to share it because I was so grateful to have

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books to read when I was having insomnia, right, and

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so I'm so grateful to have books since I thought,

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let me have these books that have resources available so

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not everyone has to go through all that I've been

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through with my training and my experiencing clinical practice for

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twenty thirty years. So first book I wrote was The

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Mysterious Mind. And The Mysterious Mind was written actually in

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twenty fifteen. It became an Amazon bestseller. And but I'm

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glad I about it with this book is it was

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a great guide for individuals. Now it's a guide for anyone,

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a little bit more geared towards those that have headaches

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and migraines, though I think a lot of people can

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benefit from that book, and it takes you through the

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journey of ari you veda understanding the vata pitta kafadosha

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understanding food intolerances. This is dated back to two thousand

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and five, two thousand and six when my daughter had

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a dairy intolerance and of gluten intolerance, and twenty years ago,

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individuals didn't believe that we had dairy issues because there

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was the milk mustache commercials. And it's interesting how the

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pendulum is speaking now about swinging to like having whole milk,

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and there's a whole competition around that. So the book

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one is talking about gut brand discussing a drenal fatigue.

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I remember Arianna Huffington wrote a book called Thrive and

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she talked about her episodes of adrenal fatigue. And I

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was studying adrenal fatigue in my practice and finding ninety

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percent of my patients had really weak cortisol levels. And

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then it discusses ari Uveda and how to get into

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vatsipitta kafa. So that's book one, The Mysterious Mind, available

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on Amazon, and then the second book twenty twenty five.

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It took me ten years to write the second book.

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It's The Stress RX and Neurologist Prescription to Happiness and

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Health using Ariveda and Rivedic prescription, and I help individuals

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really get deeper into the stressed personalities. I get deeper

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into trauma, what holds us, what keeps us stuck. I

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go from what's in book one with the adrenal fatigue,

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and then I figured out in book two, how do

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we get adrenalid fatigued? And you know, people talk about

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hormones so much nowadays, astrotrien progester one. Let me take

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a little progester on, Let me take a little you know,

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biodonical hormone. I'm not against it to prescribe. Way back

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in my Integrated Center of two thousand and six, I

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used to prescribe hormones bygentical hormones before it was a thing,

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and give ivy nutrient therapy before. Now all these centers

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are IV nitriant therapies around where I live now, in

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my home. What I'll tell you, though, is you have

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to look at the big picture. You want to know

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what's driving your hormones out of alignment, what's pushing your stress,

752
00:39:21.840 --> 00:39:26.599
because just taking hormones, unfortunately, isn't enough. Just taking progesterone

753
00:39:26.760 --> 00:39:32.000
isn't enough because progesterone turns into cortisol. So the reason

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I wrote the Stress RX is to finish the story

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that I start with the first book, to say, hey,

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you know, don't just take hormones and think that's the answer.

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Look at why is your system staying stuck in one

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of these three stress states, and then how do we

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bring ourselves back into alignment. And this isn't quick fix.

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I'm not here to give quick fix. I'm here to

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give you the deeper story behind it. And again I'm

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not against taking those things. I just want people to

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have a bigger picture. So then in five and ten

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years begin with the end in mind. You're not saying

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I did that without looking at my entire system and

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what my system the message my system was giving me

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with those hot flashes, with the weight gain, with the migraines.

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There's always a story. Learn your story and then you'll

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have the answers and then you won't rely on the

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medical system.

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Yeah, yeah, definitely very powerful. And where can they connect

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with you?

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So right now I am running some coaching groups. I

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don't offer them throughout the year very often though, for

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anyone interested, they go to my website trip dcocanimd dot

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com and or then go to the stress RX and

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that leads them to my website. If that's easier to remember,

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and there is an opportunity to apply for consultation, my

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team might let you know that hey we're not open

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right now, we maybe open later, you know, and just

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even taking the stress quiz allow you to learn about yourself.

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You'll get a video afterwards, and you can be a

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part of my tribe, and I'll tell you when I'm

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doing workshops in your area or doing any media or

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00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:13.000
podcast right and just learning and reading the books. It's

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a great way to start a lot of people will

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learn so much by doing this. Honestly, they may not

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00:41:19.760 --> 00:41:21.639
even need to see me. And it's so beautiful to

789
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be able to share this work and help others and

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be able to serve in a way that I feel

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like I can speak the Western language using these ancient tools,

792
00:41:32.400 --> 00:41:36.960
and love to hear from anybody that's struggling, and happy

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to share as much as I can with you via

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all these different resources that we have available.

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Well, thank you for joining us and sharing your wisdom

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the past, and thank you wonderful audience for being part

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of our family and sharing your feedback because without that

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you wouldn't know what you want and how we can

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support you, so continue doing so. And thank you on

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for the technical support b well on ticket till lengs time.

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Thanks thank you for being part of Beyond Confidence with

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