March 10, 2026

The .Com Trap: What Smart Companies Are Doing Instead

The .Com Trap: What Smart Companies Are Doing Instead
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Divya Parekh speaks with tech author and entrepreneur Joe Alagna about why top-level domains are becoming a powerful branding and investment opportunity. They discuss how the reopening of domain purchases in April 2026 could impact businesses and why founders should act early to protect their brands and stay ahead before demand surges.

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without further ado, let's bring in our guest. Welcome.

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Joe, Hi, Diva, how are you today?

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Good? It's good to have you, Joe. Welcome. So usually

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we kind of like start out with a little personal question.

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So when you were young or in your youth, was

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there a person or a moment that left a positive

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mark on you?

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Oh boy, Well, I guess I could say you know,

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I grew up in Chicago and near Chicago, nothing special.

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I always think I had pretty much pretty much an

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average youth, but we didn't have a lot. And one

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thing I can say is that I was always motivated

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to to be better at anything that I did, to

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do better because I had to try harder. But I

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was very fortunate as a young man to meet a

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man who mentored me in business and in selling and

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and you know, basically just how to conduct yourself in business.

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And his name was mister Kelf. I always remember him.

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I can't forget him. And in those days, what we

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did is we sold cookware door to door and I

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did that for ten years under his mentorship and I

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was pretty successful at it. But anyway, from there, over

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the years I migrated. I was always involved in some

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kind of selling or business, eventually into cell phones and

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then very fortunately and something that I still do to

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this day of getting involved in the domain name industry.

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And that's where I am today and I still enjoy

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it very very much.

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Yeah, so we all alone dot com, we know dot ai,

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and there's so many Initially it used to be dot com,

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but now there are so many other extensions and all that,

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and that's kind of world. You know, at the most

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companies as well as entrepreneurs, what they do is you

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go to go daddy name cheap and of course dona

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dot like. I mean, there's quite a few of those around.

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Like initially it used to be just one or two,

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and I think now it's almost like it has mushroomed.

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So tell us a little bit about what is this

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world of dot coms and the domains.

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Well, you know, it's very good that you start talking

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about dot coms because in the very early days of

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the Internet, when the domain name system was invented in

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the nineteen eighties.

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That there were very few choices for the suffix to

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the right of a domain name, so you could get

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dot com, dot net, dot org.

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Obviously there was gov and dot edu that many schools

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and colleges use, but that you know, there was about it.

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There were just a few, and the schools and the

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government ones of course were limited to the same. But

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what happened in twenty twelve there were some in between.

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But in twenty twelve i CAN, which is the governing

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body of the domain name system pretty much the Internet,

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in my opinion, they opened up a ninety day window,

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and they basically made an announcement and they said, for

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this period of time, if you want to own your

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own top level domain, you can apply. There was a

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whole system. They had a three hundred and fifty page

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guidebook for this. You can own your own domain name

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and you could choose the ending. So people acquired dot xyz,

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dot Love, dot Club, and actually there were about two

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thousand applications. A good eight hundred of them were duplicates

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where many people applied for the same one. And ultimately

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what ended up happening is between twenty twelve and a

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couple of years it took to get it all into place,

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six hundred new endings were added to the system, so

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as it systs today there's about a total of one thousand,

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six hundred endings, of which a good six hundred of

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them are private. So companies like IBM Dot, IBM, Amazon

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got dot aws. They use it for their own business,

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lots of com dot Google Google has their own ending too,

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but six hundred of them are available to the public.

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So today it's not you know, like you have to

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only you only can choose from dot com. I mean

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dot com is what we like to call mind, there's

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not much gold you know, for registration. You can get

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your name, you can get you know, you can get

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a business name or a product name whatever, but you

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really have to try hard. And the truth is that

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most people as they search for domain names, the first

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choice is rarely available under dot com. So all of

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this came about as the result of people complaining saying, hey,

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I can't get the name I want. Can we you know,

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and many people have you know, went to eye can

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and said, hey, can we do new endings? And so

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on twenty twelve they allowed it and as a result

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we have about six hundred possible endings to the right

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of the dot.

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Very interesting because most of the people, including myself, don't

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know about this. So now you know there are six

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hundred endings. As far as companies are concerned, you know,

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they're startup companies as well as entrepreneurs. I know. For fact,

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like you know, dot a has become extremely popular. So

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how can like you know, somebody is going and getting

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their domain name which suffix to go for how can

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people make the right decisions?

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Okay, so you bring up a very important point about

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dot ai that is often overlooked. First to answer your

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question directly, though, I would always say, yes, you want

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to get a dot com domain first, if you're able to.

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And when I say are you able to, well, you

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always try to go to go Daddy, go to Dina

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dot go to name Cheap, whatever registrar you like, and

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search you know, put in your company name, put in

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your personal name, put in your the interest you know,

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and try to get the dot com and see what happens. Now,

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a couple of things can happen. It'll either be available,

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not likely, but it's possible, so you always have to try.

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You'll be offered alternatives. You know, the registrars have learned

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that if the one you know, since most people's first

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search doesn't come available under dot com, the registrars often

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give you many alternatives, and they'll they'll offer you many

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of these other endings. So if you want to get

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you know, businesscalls dot com, they might, you know, send

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you a suggest that you get business dot call or

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something like that, you know, or they'll suggest other endings

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business calls dot net or so forth, and so on.

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Many of us have experienced this now, so dot com

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is always your first choice and you should try to

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get a dot com. But that said, we do have

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a lot of choices today. The AI is an interesting case.

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Many people are not aware that AI officially is the

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country code for Anguilla. Okay, so yeah, the United States

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has a countrycode dot US, Great Britain or the United

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Kingdom has dot UK, Brazil dot BR and it goes

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on and on. There's about two hundred and fifty of

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these that have existed since the original you know, since

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the domain name system started. But what happened. What happened is,

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you know, when AI became a popular term, the Anguilla

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Registry basically had a windfall and maybe if you go

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back six years, there were about one thousand, maybe about fifteen,

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maybe ten or fifteen thousand dot ai domains registered. Today

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there are you know, I mean, they're close to a

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half a million domains registered. They're just being registered like

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crazy because people are excited about dot AI. But it

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had nothing to do with the country of Anguilla. But well,

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Anguila just capitalized on it. They went out and they

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and they you know, worked with registrars and they made

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it popularly available. A few funny things that have happened

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people don't know about. Back less than a year ago,

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the a I dot com domain was actually sold for

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seventy million dollars to a very large investor. That was

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a dot com domain, not a dot ai domain. But well,

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let's say it's a combination of both of them. They

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had to add on the Super Bowl in fact. And

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the guy that bought it, he's the owner of crypto

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dot com, which was also a big dot com sale,

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but he's going to use it for AI agents and such.

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But anyway, things like this happen all the time, so

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country codes are kind of important. We're working with dot

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mu as an example, which is the country code for Mauritius,

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and they're going to make that the music a music domain,

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a domain for all musicians and for just people interested

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in music. And it's originally a country code, but it's

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being relaunched, I know. You see. So these kind of

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things go on in the domain name industry and a

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lot of people aren't aware of them. But dot ai

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is actually the country code for that little island of Anguilla.

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So you mentioned that these are some really fun facts

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like because so many times what happens is that I

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have spent a lot of time figuring out, Okay, what's

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a domain? Dot com or like if the name is

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not available, like what can you do? And then of

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course those registrars are sending you emails, hey this is available,

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and sometimes it's four ten thousand. So sitting on popular

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wood domains can be very powerful, like and that can

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become an investment.

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And he thoughts on that, oh, yeah, this is a

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big thing. So a lot of this, you know, happened

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by accident. You know, people just registered. In the case

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of that ai dot com. The gentleman who registered it

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lit I forgot. I think it was from Indonesia or

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something like that. But what happened was his initials were

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AI and he just talked to his mom. He was

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a kid. He said, Mom, I want to get my

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initials dot com and his mom let him use his

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credit card and he registered it twenty five years ago.

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Had no idea that one day it would become such

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a huge windfall for him. But a lot of people

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do buy and sell domain names for profit. Okay, So

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there is a cottage industry, and I would call it

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more than a cottage industry. It's millions and millions of

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dollars where people you know, there are brokers that you

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know that help people to acquire domain names. A lot

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of companies have a long name, and what happens is

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they want to get something shorter so that when they're

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you know, typing in email addresses every day, it's not

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this long email address I mean aggregately. That saves companies money.

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or even a four character domain rather than some long

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name that represents your company. So in general, short domains

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that include just letters rather than letters and numbers are

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very valuable. Of course, in the dot com is your

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first choice. And now, speaking of the title of your

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show today, there's a caveat and there's something new that

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has to do with these new domains, which we'll talk

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about in a bit. But obviously dot com is the

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most popular, most well known, and you want to go

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with the stream. You kind of want to go with

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the flow if you can. But short, easy to remember

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domain names are the most important and the most valuable ones.

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So you know the example of AI dot com is

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a real you know, that's an outlier that doesn't happen

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every day. Most domains, when you're offered those domains for

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several thousand dollars. Most domains sell in the range of

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two or three thousand dollars for the first year, but

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then they're the regular registration price thereafter fifteen dollars a year.

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So they can be really worthy investments, and they when

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you consider the fact that you're starting a business or

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a new product, it's probably worth it for you to

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invest a little more than the ten or fifteen dollars

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that it takes to register a domain name. Don't rule

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out the possibility to spend a little extra and buy

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something that is worth it, that's valuable, that you'll be

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able to use forever, that people will remember your company by.

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So that's basically the story when it comes to choosing

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a domain name.

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Yeah, and that's powerful to know that shorter names are

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more memorable, and also that that the initial investment is expensive,

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but up thereafter it goes back to the routine pricing.

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So that is a very key nugget for any companies

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or entrepreneurs deciding what to go after. So now that said,

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you know, there's also like situations where people talk about

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domain authority a lot of people. Could you shed some light.

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On that, Yeah, So the main authority is very important,

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and it's basically how the public perceives you as a

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company depending on your name. And I would put this

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on two different levels. First, as I said earlier, dot

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com is probably the most authoritative. People know it, they're

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familiar with it, they trust it, so you know that's

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always going to be there. It's probably not going to

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change anytime soon. Obviously, it's similar with dot net or

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dot org. These are trusted long term extensions or suffixes.

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But there is a new generation of people and young people,

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and you always need to think about the next generation

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that are becoming very familiar with the you know, dot

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m us, dot x y ZS, dot dot attorney, dot law,

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dot legal. I mean, they go on and on and on.

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There's just so many of them. Dot art is a

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huge one. By the way, a lot of people are

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buying dot art domain, so there's nothing wrong with them.

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They work the same. They are all backed up by

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i CAN. They are in what they are part of

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what we call the existing route. The existing route means

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that it's managed by i CAN. There are only one

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than six hundred, give or take of them in the

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whole world, which include the country codes, the new top

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level domains that we've been talking about, and all the

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original ones dot com, the dot net and the dot

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orgs and such. The root is what really the Internet

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works on this it's called the ian our route. The

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IANA is part of i CAN and that's really what

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the Internet consists of. So those are all trusted. But

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there's another level of something going on that is very

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exciting and it only happened in twenty twelve one time

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in the history of the Internet, and that is this year,

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in twenty twenty six, i CAN is reopening that window

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that they closed back in twenty twelve, and so what's

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going to happen is for ninety days, any large company

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or even smaller medium sized businesses will be able to

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apply and get their own extension. Again, this is a

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brand new development. Well, it's been planned for years, but

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it's happening in twenty twenty six. The window will open

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at the end of April and it will close in August.

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I think it's one hundred and five days, is what

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they're planning. And this is an ongoing process that is

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being discussed by the way in India right now. The

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ICN meetings are occurring right now as we speak in Mumbai,

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and they're in the final stages of preparation. And this

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is a very exciting thing. So many companies who missed

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out last time, that didn't get to get their own

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company name, for example, their own brand names for example,

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they'll be able to apply in twenty twenty six. And

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when will that window open again. We don't know. I

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can's not saying yet, doesn't mean it never will. But

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it's only happened once in the history of the Internet,

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and it's been fourteen years since that. So twenty twenty

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six is a big year for brands and for businesses

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and even for you know, even for individuals that are

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you know, if you know, if they're well capitalized, then

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they want to own a little piece of the Internet.

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It's possible. If I may just share one example of

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a smaller entrepreneur who has been quite successful, a gentleman

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that applied for dot buzz back in twenty twelve. His

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idea was to capitalize on news buzz and news hips

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and things like that, so he read, he applied for

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and acquired dot buzz. He was the only one that

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applied for it, by the way, so he had no

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competition no contention. I can didn't have to settle any

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you know, there weren't like eight guys that applied for

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dot buzz. He was the only one. And back then

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it cost one hundred and eighty five thousand dollars to

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apply for your own ending. By the way, owning a

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owning a top level domain is like a business. It's

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not like you know, buying or flipping domain names. It's

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it's a different level of business. But he applied for it,

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he acquired it, he was awarded dot buzz. You can

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go to GoDaddy or any of these registrars and buy

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it not buzz domain. A guy named by the name

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of Bill Dosher. I don't think he'll mind me mentioning

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his name. Just a regular, you know, entrepreneur that decided

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to do this. And what he did not count on

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is something that happens quite often. A domain can pop.

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And what happened was marijuana became legal in many states

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around the country after twenty twelve, and so I think

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a lot of people were registering Probably more people were

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registering dot buzz for use in that industry than they

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were for news scoops and things like that. Who knew

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I don't think Bill knew, but anyway, those that's what

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happened with dot ai. These things happen all the time,

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and so you know again twenty twenty six, the window

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will open and it's it's an amazing opportunity for many

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companies and for many businesses.

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So technically, what you're saying is his domain name got

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the buzz from the buzz.

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It got the buzz from the buzz exactly. He really,

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he really did well and he still runs it today.

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So since you've mentioned about this really powerful move in

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twenty twenty six, so, like you know, a couple of

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questions that come to my mind is where can people

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go to know this is going to open up? And

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then secondly, usually how does the process work?

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Okay, so that's a very good question. So there I

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can again, this is the organization that manages the Internet.

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It's I can dot org ic A n N dot org.

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That's where the information lies, and it's a little obscure. Truthfully,

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you do need help. That's helped that. My company offers

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it dot com if you don't mind me mentioning it. Yeah,

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and we did in twenty twelve. I actually worked personally

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with thirty out of the sixty applicants that applications that

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were put through my company at that time through our company,

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So it's a process that we're familiar with. Many of

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our employees and the people that work with it dot

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com today are people who were in the industry back then.

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Some of them who worked with tests. She worked with GoDaddy,

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Sergei was he actually worked with a company that started

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their own top level domain back then. Anyway, we have

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people that are experienced so they can come to people

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like ourselves or some of our partners. We work with

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a company called TLDs with a Z. They provide consulting

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and you need help, but I can't just put out

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a guidebook. It's the Applicant Applicant Guidebook. It's about four

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hundred pages and it's like answering in RFP. There's about

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two hundred or so questions they're going to ask you.

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You're going to need to have, you know, the financial resources,

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you'll need to have the technical resources. But we provide that.

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That's what I dot com does, where what they call

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a registry services provider, So we provide this back end.

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The back end does a couple of things. It connects

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you with the registrars like GoDaddy and name cheap and

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you know all those others. It also manages what's called

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the DNS. It's just an acronym for domain name system.

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But basically DNS is the back end that directs traffic

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so that when somebody types in your name dot whatever,

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it will work. It will be directed to the server

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where your content lies. We provide all of that stuff,

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and then, of course, you know there's always legal and

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accounting and business and all of the business side of

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things that you need to manage. But that's the kind

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of thing we provide at i dot com. And for

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those that you know, want to do everything themselves, they

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can go to I can and dig it up. You

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can go to i can events. That's the interesting thing

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that people don't know. I can is an open, bottoms

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up organization. It is managed by consensus. There's no even

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though they make the rules, and there is a board.

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I think it's a seventeen person board. These people come

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from all over the world. They are nominated elected. They're

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usually very smart and successful people that know the Internet

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and know business, and those people basically vote and make

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decisions and those decisions stand. But the decisions come after

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a lot of discussion, years and years of discussion and

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debate and technical people involved in legal minds and government.

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They have a government committee. There's a whole people from

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all over the world attend I CAN meetings. Anyone can attend.

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It's free to attend. All you have to do is

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pay for a hotel and airfare and you can go

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to an ICM meeting, register and learn about the Internet,

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learn about domain It's amazing the knowledge that is shared

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in I CAN meetings. But yeah, that's that's where it

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all happens.

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So let's if somebody wants to do it on their own.

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Then you said that, you know, reach out to ikn

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dot or be prepared for those two hundred plus questions.

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Yes and like so you also mentioned about having substantial

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resources financially, can you tell you usually like what are

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the ranges that yeah, those suffixes.

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Go for Yeah, okay, so here's how that works. And

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you know, I like to point out there's there's a

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lot of ways to make money on the Internet and

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and a lot of ways to make money with domain ames. Uh,

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your average listener can take some time learn about domains.

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There are places like d and journal my friend, Ron

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Jackson runs DNJournal dot com and what dn journal does

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is it actually shows and catalogs and tell stories about

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how much our domain name is selling for today and

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ron inventory that goes back twenty years. There are several

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sites like that, but somebody can begin there as an example,

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and yeah, there's an industry. Your average listener can buy

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and sell domain names for registration costs or maybe a

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little bit of after market costs, invest in them, and

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sell them. So there's no costs, very little costs or

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barrier to entry to invest and buy and sell domain names.

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But this is a different level. By the way, people

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are brokers, there's a lot of domain name brokers. If

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you're a good negotiator and you like business and you

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like bringing people together and making deals, the domain name

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brokerage is very exciting. And there's an organization called the

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ICA Internet Commerce Association. We are members of it. By

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the way, it dot com is a member and all

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the brokers gather every year once or twice a year,

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and you know that there's a fee of course for that.

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But the ICA is where brokers gather and talk about

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buying and selling domains. So that's another way an average

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person can make money. Getting your own top level domain

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is a different level though, it's kind of like buying

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a business. So to answer your question, I can this

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time is asking two hundred and twenty seven thousand dollars

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for you to apply to get your own top level domain.

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When you consider that large corporations spend you know, many

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millions of dollars advertising every year, this is not a

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lot of money for a large corporation, and it's actually

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not a lot of money for a business if you

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want to run a business, if you're interested in the

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domain industry, which is very exciting and continues to grow

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through recessions and all kinds of things that happen during

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the Internet at bust, I think the year two thousand

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there was a little flattening. It went down a bit,

465
00:28:05.039 --> 00:28:07.400
but it continued to grow and has grown ever since.

466
00:28:07.720 --> 00:28:11.319
In twenty ten, when the real estate and mortgage bust happened,

467
00:28:11.880 --> 00:28:16.640
all businesses were affected. The Internet industry actually boomed, oh COVID.

468
00:28:16.960 --> 00:28:20.279
During COVID, the Internet industry, domain names boomed. It was

469
00:28:20.319 --> 00:28:22.960
an amazing time for the domain name industry because everybody

470
00:28:23.039 --> 00:28:26.759
went online, they all went to Zoom, They relied on

471
00:28:26.799 --> 00:28:31.000
e commerce, rather than retail stores. So domain names are

472
00:28:31.039 --> 00:28:33.519
continuing to grow globally at about a two and a

473
00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:37.200
half percent rate. New top level domains, the ones that

474
00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:39.200
were brought out in twenty twelve, are growing in the

475
00:28:39.519 --> 00:28:42.720
twenty percent range. They're growing a lot faster than dot com.

476
00:28:43.000 --> 00:28:46.240
Why because you know, as I said earlier in the show,

477
00:28:46.319 --> 00:28:48.799
dot com is very well mined, so people are going

478
00:28:49.039 --> 00:28:53.720
to these alternatives. In fact, it dot com only exists

479
00:28:53.759 --> 00:28:57.279
because we sell subdomains under it dot com. So if

480
00:28:57.279 --> 00:29:00.960
you want to get you know, your name, and it's

481
00:29:01.000 --> 00:29:04.960
not available, we make your name dot it dot com available.

482
00:29:05.079 --> 00:29:09.440
We're selling these two lots of IT people to Italians

483
00:29:09.480 --> 00:29:12.440
because it stands for Italy. We're selling it to the

484
00:29:12.480 --> 00:29:15.400
IT crowd. Anybody who thinks they're special or is special

485
00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:18.599
for whatever reason, you've got it. We sell it dot

486
00:29:18.599 --> 00:29:21.839
com domains to those people. But anyway, new top level

487
00:29:21.839 --> 00:29:24.079
domains are going to cost two hundred and twenty seven

488
00:29:24.160 --> 00:29:27.559
thousand dollars as an application fee. Now, if you go

489
00:29:27.920 --> 00:29:30.559
and you apply for something that becomes very that is

490
00:29:30.759 --> 00:29:35.000
or will become very popular, almost anything related to AI.

491
00:29:36.559 --> 00:29:39.400
You know this new economy that's going on. Now, you're

492
00:29:39.440 --> 00:29:42.640
going to have competition, and you're probably going to end

493
00:29:42.720 --> 00:29:46.000
up in an auction, and that auction can cost a

494
00:29:46.119 --> 00:29:51.279
lot more. In twenty twelve, auctions happened and domains new

495
00:29:51.319 --> 00:29:59.359
top level domains sold for millions. The most expensive one

496
00:29:59.559 --> 00:30:03.920
was web Dot Dot Web, I'm sorry, dot Web, which

497
00:30:04.359 --> 00:30:08.160
is still in contention. The high bid there was one

498
00:30:08.240 --> 00:30:11.440
hundred and if I recall, right, one hundred and twenty

499
00:30:11.720 --> 00:30:16.319
million dollars, believe it or not. So, but you know,

500
00:30:16.640 --> 00:30:18.960
if you do something like what Bill did, and you

501
00:30:19.039 --> 00:30:21.680
apply for a little bit more obscure but something that

502
00:30:21.720 --> 00:30:25.480
you're you know, attuned to, you may have no contention

503
00:30:25.640 --> 00:30:28.920
and you can leave there with that investment of two

504
00:30:29.000 --> 00:30:32.119
hundred and twenty seven thousand dollars plus your costs, I

505
00:30:32.119 --> 00:30:34.279
mean if you do some of it yourself, I mean

506
00:30:35.000 --> 00:30:38.119
less than probably three hundred thousand or you know, depending

507
00:30:38.160 --> 00:30:40.640
on what you invest in the business on your own

508
00:30:40.640 --> 00:30:44.119
for marketing and overhead maybe staff. Those are the other

509
00:30:44.559 --> 00:30:48.440
the more fixed costs, but it can range. But the

510
00:30:48.839 --> 00:30:51.279
starting fee is two hundred and twenty seven thousand dollars.

511
00:30:52.480 --> 00:30:54.720
So you mentioned that, like you know, it's going to

512
00:30:54.720 --> 00:30:57.720
be no open applications and let's say several companies are

513
00:30:57.720 --> 00:31:01.359
applying for the same thing. Is going to be auctions.

514
00:31:01.400 --> 00:31:03.480
So how does that auction work? Is it in person?

515
00:31:03.599 --> 00:31:04.480
Is it online?

516
00:31:04.799 --> 00:31:07.839
Oh, it's actually a lot of fun. So what happened

517
00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:11.440
last time and things will be different this time. So

518
00:31:11.599 --> 00:31:14.720
when you apply for a top level domain, don't talk

519
00:31:14.759 --> 00:31:17.359
to anybody about it except for your close partners, and

520
00:31:17.440 --> 00:31:20.720
do it under a non disclosure agreement. Don't just go

521
00:31:20.759 --> 00:31:22.880
out and say, hey, well, there's a few people that

522
00:31:22.920 --> 00:31:26.599
are announcing their intentions. But in my opinion and from

523
00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:28.640
my experience, that's not a good way to do it,

524
00:31:28.680 --> 00:31:32.559
because if you announce your ideas, you are inviting more

525
00:31:32.680 --> 00:31:34.960
competition and I don't think that will help you in

526
00:31:35.000 --> 00:31:39.000
this process. So if you have a great idea and

527
00:31:39.039 --> 00:31:41.400
you don't think anybody else is thinking of it, we

528
00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:45.519
don't assume that somebody might be, but maybe not. What

529
00:31:45.559 --> 00:31:49.319
you should do is you should approach somebody like myself,

530
00:31:49.480 --> 00:31:52.279
it dot com or a consultant. There's others out there.

531
00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:54.759
You can start it. I can to do your research

532
00:31:54.759 --> 00:31:58.160
if you want to, but what you'll want to do

533
00:31:58.240 --> 00:32:01.839
is keep it secret and uh share it only with

534
00:32:01.880 --> 00:32:05.519
your partners, maybe your attorney, whoever and you will apply.

535
00:32:05.599 --> 00:32:08.599
You're gonna you're gonna have to pay the fee. Uh.

536
00:32:08.720 --> 00:32:11.759
This is between April and August. You'll have to pay

537
00:32:11.759 --> 00:32:14.720
the I CAN fee. And what happened last time and

538
00:32:14.960 --> 00:32:18.359
it will happen this time is uh several months after

539
00:32:18.400 --> 00:32:22.240
you uh, after you at the window closes and all

540
00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:26.160
the applications have been received. People are estimating that maybe

541
00:32:26.200 --> 00:32:29.200
one thousand to two thousand, maybe more will be received

542
00:32:29.240 --> 00:32:31.880
by I CAN. What's gonna happen is I CAN. We'll

543
00:32:31.880 --> 00:32:35.200
go through a bit of an evaluation. They will consolidate

544
00:32:35.359 --> 00:32:39.319
the similar the same same ones, the similar ones. Uh,

545
00:32:39.359 --> 00:32:42.440
and then they'll have what's called a reveal day. Uh.

546
00:32:42.519 --> 00:32:44.759
It's kind of funny. Last time it was right around Christmas.

547
00:32:44.799 --> 00:32:46.680
I mean they had Santa Claus there. It was in

548
00:32:47.640 --> 00:32:50.720
near Marina del Ray in Los Angeles here, by the way,

549
00:32:50.759 --> 00:32:52.119
is where they had it. It was an event. They

550
00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:54.759
held it at a hotel, but it was also online.

551
00:32:54.799 --> 00:32:57.880
They did it virtually. It was very public, very transparent.

552
00:32:58.160 --> 00:33:00.960
And what they do is they are not all of

553
00:33:01.000 --> 00:33:04.880
the applications and they put them into contention sets. It

554
00:33:04.920 --> 00:33:07.720
was a big party, by the way, and it was

555
00:33:07.839 --> 00:33:10.960
very exciting, and then they assigned them priority, which means

556
00:33:10.960 --> 00:33:13.480
how they're not going to release them all in one

557
00:33:13.559 --> 00:33:17.200
big batch. They're going to release them in smaller batches

558
00:33:17.240 --> 00:33:20.240
over a period of time. So they were last time,

559
00:33:20.240 --> 00:33:23.799
they released you know, anywhere from five to ten per

560
00:33:23.880 --> 00:33:27.680
month over a period of many years. But the revealed

561
00:33:27.759 --> 00:33:30.240
day was actually pretty exciting. It was a party and

562
00:33:30.319 --> 00:33:32.880
it was the day where all of the secrets were revealed.

563
00:33:32.920 --> 00:33:35.440
How many people applied for this, how many people applied

564
00:33:35.480 --> 00:33:38.440
for that, and you got to know if you had

565
00:33:38.440 --> 00:33:42.720
competition or not. But what's going to happen this time

566
00:33:43.440 --> 00:33:45.400
it was a little different last time. Is if you

567
00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:48.079
have contention, if you have many people who applied for

568
00:33:48.200 --> 00:33:51.319
your idea or your what you thought was your idea,

569
00:33:52.039 --> 00:33:56.359
you'll go to You'll go through the process. There's many

570
00:33:56.400 --> 00:34:00.279
little steps along the way, but ultimately there is an

571
00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:03.039
auction and I CAN, we'll get the proceeds. I can,

572
00:34:03.119 --> 00:34:06.920
We'll use this money. They say it's nonprofit, and they

573
00:34:06.920 --> 00:34:09.679
say it's just to cover their costs, but in truth,

574
00:34:09.719 --> 00:34:11.039
I think it's going to be a lot more than

575
00:34:11.159 --> 00:34:14.119
their cost because of these these are very valuable and

576
00:34:14.280 --> 00:34:17.000
I CAN is going to get that money. But it'll

577
00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:19.800
be used to make the Internet stronger, because that's what

578
00:34:19.840 --> 00:34:23.039
I can't charter is I can is there to you know,

579
00:34:23.840 --> 00:34:29.039
help prevent fraud, to help coordinate, just basically make sure

580
00:34:29.039 --> 00:34:31.920
that the Internet works around the world, that it stays global,

581
00:34:32.679 --> 00:34:35.599
that is the resource that it is today, continues to

582
00:34:35.679 --> 00:34:38.360
be the resource for our children, that it is for

583
00:34:38.400 --> 00:34:41.800
our children and for their children. But that's how it's

584
00:34:41.840 --> 00:34:44.519
going to work. It's going to be ultimately at the end,

585
00:34:44.519 --> 00:34:46.519
will be an auction and the highest bidder's going to win.

586
00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:49.159
So if you go and try to apply for something

587
00:34:49.239 --> 00:34:51.920
that is very popular right now in the world of AI,

588
00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:55.920
for example, be prepared, you know, to be in an

589
00:34:55.920 --> 00:34:58.519
auction and it could cost way more than the two

590
00:34:58.559 --> 00:34:59.960
hundred and twenty seven thousand dollars.

591
00:35:01.320 --> 00:35:04.639
And I'm sure our audience has a question like, Okay,

592
00:35:04.679 --> 00:35:09.360
you go, you bid it. The highest auction bidder gets

593
00:35:09.360 --> 00:35:15.719
the the dot com or whatever that suffix dot whatever, yes,

594
00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:18.599
dot whatever, Like what do you call that dot suffix?

595
00:35:19.079 --> 00:35:21.760
That suffix, well, you can suffix is an accurate word.

596
00:35:22.280 --> 00:35:25.840
You can call it. The technical word is top level domain.

597
00:35:26.239 --> 00:35:28.719
So top level domain they get that.

598
00:35:29.000 --> 00:35:31.840
They call it al. They also call it a TLD for.

599
00:35:31.840 --> 00:35:34.840
Short okay, so t LD okay, so top level domain

600
00:35:35.559 --> 00:35:38.320
people get that. What happens to the rest of the people.

601
00:35:38.360 --> 00:35:41.960
Do they lose their application fee or do they get

602
00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:42.400
it back?

603
00:35:42.679 --> 00:35:45.880
That's a great question, very pertinent. So I can once

604
00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:49.239
the revealed day happens, I can will give you the

605
00:35:49.320 --> 00:35:53.519
opportunity to do one of a few things. All right.

606
00:35:53.599 --> 00:35:57.639
Part of the application process is what they call the

607
00:35:57.880 --> 00:36:03.559
alternate string or alternate uh TLD. When you apply, you're

608
00:36:03.639 --> 00:36:05.760
they're going to ask you to choose a second one,

609
00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:07.480
and it doesn't have to be related. It can be

610
00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:12.880
completely unrelated. And once the revealed day happens, they're gonna say,

611
00:36:12.880 --> 00:36:14.639
you're gonna you're gonna know if you're going to be

612
00:36:14.639 --> 00:36:17.320
in an auction or not, because it will happen or

613
00:36:17.320 --> 00:36:20.440
it won't. Uh you will have the option number one

614
00:36:20.679 --> 00:36:25.559
to stand up your second or your alternative top level domain,

615
00:36:25.679 --> 00:36:30.000
your alternative string. We call them strings often. So if

616
00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:33.800
you want, if you applied for dot everything, and many

617
00:36:33.840 --> 00:36:37.320
other people applied for Dot everything, you can lay down

618
00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:40.880
Dot everything and stand up Dot anything if you get

619
00:36:40.880 --> 00:36:43.320
what I mean, And if nobody else applied for it,

620
00:36:43.480 --> 00:36:45.360
there you go. You can go The rest of the

621
00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:49.760
process without competition. So that's your first choice or a

622
00:36:49.960 --> 00:36:53.480
choice that you'll have. The other choice is you can

623
00:36:53.840 --> 00:36:57.159
back out. You can say, okay, I didn't think i'd

624
00:36:57.159 --> 00:37:01.599
have this much competition. My alternative string also has competition.

625
00:37:02.639 --> 00:37:05.159
We want our money back now I can. We'll issue

626
00:37:05.239 --> 00:37:09.239
you a sixty five percent refund. That means you lost

627
00:37:09.280 --> 00:37:12.920
eighty thousand dollars if you back out. So this is

628
00:37:13.039 --> 00:37:16.800
not something that you want to do lightly. It's not

629
00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:19.039
and you don't do it if you know, if you

630
00:37:19.199 --> 00:37:20.840
don't take money out of your four to oh one

631
00:37:20.920 --> 00:37:23.679
k to do this. This is for you. Got to

632
00:37:23.679 --> 00:37:28.000
be funded and willing to risk some money. But from

633
00:37:28.039 --> 00:37:30.679
I can't standpoint by the way. They don't want just

634
00:37:30.760 --> 00:37:33.639
anybody operating a top level domain. Remember in the world

635
00:37:34.519 --> 00:37:37.840
there are something like three hundred and eighty six million

636
00:37:37.880 --> 00:37:42.840
domain names register globally. Okay, in the top level, as

637
00:37:42.920 --> 00:37:45.880
I mentioned earlier, there are only one thousand, six hundred

638
00:37:46.239 --> 00:37:49.800
give or take today, I can't doesn't want three hundred

639
00:37:49.840 --> 00:37:52.440
and eighty million top level domains. Maybe one day it'll

640
00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:55.039
be different, but as it stands today, that's not what

641
00:37:55.079 --> 00:37:59.880
they want. They want serious operators that are financially stable,

642
00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:03.039
that have the technology, that know what they're doing or

643
00:38:03.119 --> 00:38:05.440
can learn what they're doing. You don't have to you know,

644
00:38:05.480 --> 00:38:08.760
you don't have to be a multi billion dollar corporation,

645
00:38:08.920 --> 00:38:13.199
but you do have to have certain standards. So you know,

646
00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:15.639
you've got to be willing to take some risk. Here,

647
00:38:15.760 --> 00:38:18.679
there is absolutely risk. And if I may mention my

648
00:38:18.719 --> 00:38:21.039
book and my book I talk about this. By the way,

649
00:38:21.239 --> 00:38:23.920
there's a whole section about the caveats and the risks.

650
00:38:25.480 --> 00:38:28.719
Yeah. Now, I totally enjoyed your book, and please share,

651
00:38:28.800 --> 00:38:30.960
like you know, Amherre. Can people connect with you? Where

652
00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:31.960
can they find your book?

653
00:38:32.679 --> 00:38:35.159
Oh? My book is on Amazon. It's called how to

654
00:38:35.239 --> 00:38:38.679
Get your Own Top Level Domain. You know, it's a

655
00:38:38.719 --> 00:38:42.920
long title, but I wanted to write it ever since

656
00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:47.320
twenty thirteen after i CAN did the first round of

657
00:38:47.400 --> 00:38:51.320
new TLDs. But I didn't take on the project seriously

658
00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:55.440
until I came to work for it dot com. And

659
00:38:55.840 --> 00:38:58.960
in fact, our CEO is my co author. His name

660
00:38:59.000 --> 00:39:02.159
is Andre Interra. We did we did this book together.

661
00:39:03.079 --> 00:39:05.639
We felt that, you know, the way i CAN does this.

662
00:39:05.760 --> 00:39:08.760
They're a great organization, but I like to say they

663
00:39:08.760 --> 00:39:11.840
preached to the choir because you know, their reach for

664
00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:15.320
this news, for this amazing information is kind of limited.

665
00:39:15.360 --> 00:39:20.480
They go to industry forums, so it's not well known

666
00:39:20.559 --> 00:39:23.559
outside the outside the industry. And I'm on a mission

667
00:39:23.960 --> 00:39:27.280
to let the world know that new top level domains

668
00:39:27.280 --> 00:39:29.239
are possible, that you can own one, that you can

669
00:39:29.320 --> 00:39:33.280
operate one, and that there the process is doable. Is

670
00:39:33.280 --> 00:39:35.920
it risky, yes, is it doable?

671
00:39:36.039 --> 00:39:36.239
Yes?

672
00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:40.920
Absolutely? And you know, so we put the book together

673
00:39:41.079 --> 00:39:45.039
last year. We released actually did a second version because

674
00:39:45.079 --> 00:39:47.679
I CAN has what's called the Applicant guide Book, which

675
00:39:47.719 --> 00:39:50.840
is much more complicated than mine, and it is something

676
00:39:50.880 --> 00:39:53.719
that you will need and will use. That's the authoritative

677
00:39:53.800 --> 00:39:56.719
guidebook to getting a new top level domain. But we

678
00:39:56.800 --> 00:39:59.559
felt like, you know, I CAN isn't giving people a

679
00:39:59.559 --> 00:40:02.800
lot of time in terms of like like this is happening,

680
00:40:03.000 --> 00:40:05.760
And so we wrote the book last year. We released

681
00:40:05.800 --> 00:40:08.519
it on Amazon, the first version in March, and then

682
00:40:08.559 --> 00:40:13.360
the second version around October, and it's available right now.

683
00:40:15.960 --> 00:40:18.559
Oh that's fantastic, and I'm sure, like you know, people

684
00:40:18.599 --> 00:40:22.559
will get so much value out of it. And do

685
00:40:22.599 --> 00:40:25.800
you also want to share your website where can people connect? Yes?

686
00:40:26.400 --> 00:40:29.360
Our website is well you can go to get it

687
00:40:29.719 --> 00:40:33.039
dot com or if you go to get it dot com.

688
00:40:33.280 --> 00:40:35.760
That's our basic website. That's where we offer it dot

689
00:40:35.800 --> 00:40:39.000
com domains we have if you search in domain there

690
00:40:39.000 --> 00:40:41.679
by the way, we don't actually sell domains there, but

691
00:40:41.800 --> 00:40:44.840
we if you search for a domain, you'll be connected

692
00:40:44.840 --> 00:40:47.599
with ten of the top registrars in the world who

693
00:40:47.639 --> 00:40:50.320
offer our domains, and you can compare prices. It's actually

694
00:40:50.360 --> 00:40:53.880
a nice price comparison tool. Whether you buy an it

695
00:40:54.159 --> 00:40:57.400
dot com domain or not. You can buy any domain

696
00:40:57.440 --> 00:40:59.840
because it connects you all the best registrars Go Daddy

697
00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:03.079
and Dina, dots and name Cheap and many others. So

698
00:41:03.119 --> 00:41:06.519
that's it's a great tool for that. But also at

699
00:41:07.159 --> 00:41:12.000
r SP that stands for Registry Service Provider dot I

700
00:41:12.159 --> 00:41:15.719
T dot com, we have some specific information related to

701
00:41:16.079 --> 00:41:20.440
acquiring your own top level domain, your own suffix UH.

702
00:41:20.480 --> 00:41:24.159
So you can go to either of those websites or honestly,

703
00:41:24.199 --> 00:41:26.280
I'm pretty easy to find if you if you type

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in Joelanya, I'm on LinkedIn, I'm on Twitter, I go

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I'm I'm out there. So I don't have many secrets.

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I'm easy to find. Just search for Joelanya, I T

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dot com and you'll find me all over and I'm

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very happy to receive an email or a phone call.

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Well, fantastic, Joe. Any last times you might want to

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share with their.

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Audience, I'll just say this that first, thank you for listening.

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If you if you stayed with us this long. Domain

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Names can be a topic that where some people's eyes

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glaze over, but in truth, it's super exciting. If you

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love languages, if you love words, if you love communications.

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I think domain names are a very exciting business. I

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love the industry and I would encourage you to explore

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being part of it, whether it be to get your

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own top level domain, whether it be to be a broker,

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or whether it be just to invest in them. Domains

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are really exciting. They have a great future. By the way,

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all we've heard many times that apps will replace domains,

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AI will replace domains, and I want you to just

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I want you to remember one thing, and that is

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you still have an address on your home? Is that right?

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You do right? And on your business? Addresses don't go

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out of style, and domain names are your virtual address

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and they're not going to go out of style. They're

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going to remain relevant for many, many years.

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Definitely like people are going to have address and these

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are some of the careers that remain AI proof, at

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least in the near future. We don't know what's there

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to come. So thank you for joining us, and I'm

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sure like go check it out. You know, I definitely

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enjoyed your book, Joe. Thank you and you will get

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a wealth of information. Thank you for joining us, and

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thank you wonderful audience for being part of our show

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and letting us know how we can support you and

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serve you. Reach out to us just like you always

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do and let us know who do you want to

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be our next guest and how can we serve you

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to make your life the best that you can have.

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Thank you one for making the show technically possible and

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be valuntike here until next time.

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Thank you for being part of Beyond Confidence. With your

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host d v Park, we hope you have learned more

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about how to start living the life you want. Each

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week on Beyond Confidence, you hear stories of real people

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