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it is Tuesday morning, and I'm
so thrilled to be here with you

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all, and I have a story
to share with you. So recently I

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was at one of our local mechanic
shops all actually whatever, yeah, at

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the Mechanic Auto Mechanic where we were
getting you know, car service, just

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a sixty thousand mile check up,
just a te rotation, just the usual

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stuff. And then rather than sitting
in the waiting room, there was coffee,

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some popcorns. I was like,
hmmm. Rather than scrolling down there

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my social media or my phone,
I decided, like, I know that

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there is a nice par out here
and some nice trails. Let me go

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check it out. And I just
went down. It was going to be

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hour and a half or so.
They were quite busy, and you will

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not believe it. I was surprised
that exploration turned out to be a local

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adventure. So every turn I took
it was just fascinating. From swamp roses

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to wild life. Point said yea
like flowers and just it was like I'd

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turn around these colorful mushrooms, i
would turn around blue heron, and I'd

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turn around and there would be just
these beautiful flowers. And I cannot tell

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you what I was dreading, that
it would be like a boring and I'd

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be yawning my way while sitting over
there turned out to be an adventure as

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if I was in one of the
best vacation spots on the earth. So

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what I'm inviting you over here is
to take that time and explore your own

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backyard. So many times we are
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of kindness going. Really important.
Take a moment and help out. It

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can be a simple things. So
just to share, we were walking and

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when I'm saying, we were like, you know, there were several people

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walking around and as I was taking
pictures of these swamproses, and if you're

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interested to see what do they look
like, feel free to go on one

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of my social medias and you'll see
I've created a whole movie out of it.

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And so there were these two ladies
and they were trying to get the

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pictures and they were not as great, so they were like talking to each

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other. I wish I had grabbed
that, and then I had taken several

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pictures. And I'm not a photographer, but somehow, you know, that

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day got some really good pictures.
I said, would y'all like me to

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ed drop it? And they said
sure, and dropp didn't work, but

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I was able to send them the
pictures and it was so beautiful to see

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that smile on their faces, just
a tunny little picture, five minutes of

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your time, and that kindness can
go long ways. So take the time

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and be kind to others. Let's
bring our guests in, welcome that her,

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good morning, and thank you for
inviting me. Pleasure to be here.

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Absolutely, it's a pleasure to have
you here. Sonata usually begin at

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the childhood. So can you share
with us. Do you recall any moments

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or any person that you remember even
today or who helped shift your life?

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Well, I have a lot of
areas. I think that the one thing

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that comes to mind which sort of
shaped my life as I was growing up

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is I had a rather severe stuttering
problem. When I was at school.

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I had a hard time to speak
in front of people space, specially reciting

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a book or something like that,
and I would just get stuck. And

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that was bringing me a lot of
agony and tension and frustration. And that

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was with me for all along.
So that was that was one story.

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And then when I after high school, I came to us to study and

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and then I started to work.
And then in work, where we're sitting

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around a meeting, I realized,
oh man, and I need to learn

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to present in front of people,
because that stuttering problem didn't have any issues

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with getting really good grades, but
it did cause a lot of issues when

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I was going to present in front
of people. And so I decided to

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sign up for um a UC Berkeley
Extension class teaching the class so that I

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can address that that issue that fear
in me. And and I the very

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first day of that class, you
know, a young kid, I was

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about twenty twenty three years old,
and as you may know, Berkeley Extension

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classes, they're all industry experts,
and there's like fifty fifty five really grown

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up people in front of me,
and so the fear factor was pretty pretty

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huge for me. And the stuttering
problem was actually started out really bad,

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but then over time, day after
day, got a little better, a

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little better, so toward the end
of the quarter it was pretty much gone.

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So I was able to address that
just by sort of facing my fears

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in a sense. So that's one
of the one of the stories I would

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say, another story that comes to
mind released to music. You know,

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I'm a youngest of five kids,
and all of my older brothers and sisters,

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they were encouraged to take lessons music
lessons and they none of them really

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took it seriously. So when it
came to me, my parents basically decided,

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you know what white bothers like this
is this is pretent effort. So

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I was pretty much the only one
that didn't get a formal music training.

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But having said that, there was
a piano sitting in a corner of our

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our living room, and every once
in a while I used to sit down

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and just play with the keys.
I just enjoyed creating melodies and just playing

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alone, and that really created a
lot of fascination and a love for music.

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So I carried that over. I
just love to create tunes, to

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compose, to just bring things together
and just use this tool as a as

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an expression of the soul. So
that stayed with me all along, and

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obviously I kept you know, whatever, whatever instrument I like, I just

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pick it up and play. I
don't really know too much of a technicalities

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of music, but I have taken
a couple of classes here and they're just

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to know the basics. But what
I really enjoy is the creativity and the

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expression aspect of music. And I
also bring that into my warp too,

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because it also is a great source
of presence. When you listen to music,

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you can't live in the past.
You can live in the future.

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You have to stay with that note
right there. You can't hang on to

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the note that you heard like ten
seconds ago, and you can't predict what's

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going to come. So it's really
a meditative experience, which I really appreciate.

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Yeah, no, fascinating. So
let's talk about both the stories.

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So you talked about that when you
were young, you face stuttering, and

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I'm sure that children being children,
children can be fun and at the same

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time, they can be very cruel
and even more people. So did you

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face any of that if you're okay
to share. Yeah, I mean it

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wasn't too much. I was a
very i would say, not a very

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social person. I really I really
didn't mingle too much. I was very

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much in my own world. In
fact, my primary world was just tinkering.

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I you know, we had an
underground kind of a basement and that

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was my laboratory. I did all
kinds of stuff, you know, like

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making electrical stuff, painting obviously music, you know, building mechanical stuff.

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So that was my world. I
didn't have a whole lot of social connections.

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I did have a couple of friends, but not a whole lot.

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So because of that, there wasn't
too many opportunities for bullying, I would

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say, because I was kind of
isolated and I kind of focussed in my

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own little world, so I didn't
have any drastic ones. But of course

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during the class when I was stuttering, of course people would laugh and you

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know, make keys. Yeah,
so yes, of course there's some of

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that, but it wasn't a major
trauma. I would say, Well,

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that's good because as it is,
people are self conscious about public speaking,

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and then when you have stuttering,
I'm sure the problem became compounded, as

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you mentioned out, So tell us
about that quarter as to how did you

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overcome that fear of stuttering and how
did it just get deleted from your life.

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Yeah, yeah, you know,
it's a I think a lot of

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times these um these fears sort of
paralyze us, just like the stuttering problem

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was paralyzing me in a sense,
right, So it was really a conscious

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intent to be able to address it
because, as I mentioned to you,

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when I started working, I sort
of realized if I were going to reach

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any level of success, I just
have to find a way to resolve this

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and I thought, the only way
to resolve this is to face it head

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on. And you know, sometimes
I do that. I just put some

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goals that that is way beyond myself
and then just see what happens. And

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and just the act of doing that, you know, setting an intention and

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putting a vision out there, UM
sort of propelled me toward finding ways to

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address it and to be honest,
you know, in the me and I

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remember that in that session, in
the Core Berkeley Extension session, UM,

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I will see obviously they were feeling
a bit sorry for me. But having

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said that, I was. I
was very good at school, and I

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knew exactly what to teach them from
a technical perspective, I've got it all.

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It's just I wasn't able to communicate. So I did a lot of

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writing on the board. UM,
I did a lot of handout so I

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could sort of let them, let
them read through it. So I tried

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to compensate some of that in the
early phases until I sort of start,

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um the practice of verbalization aspect of
it. So they really appreciated it.

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In fact, they really appreciated the
thought behind the organizations, the care I

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showed towards them. So they were
very compassionate, very understanding, So that

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really helped me to get positive reinforcement
and really find a way to connect with

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them more. And and again it's
just it was just a matter of practice,

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not giving up, and again just
a lot of these baby steps.

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And just like anything else is like
building a muscle, so losing your fear

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is is a little like that as
well. It's almost like a workout at

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least. Yeah, definitely. So
I like how you put it together that

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you know you have that intention,
So now you have the intention, have

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that vision of what the future will
look like. And once you know what

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that future will look like, it's
also important to take that action and keeping

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that vision and intention in front of
you. Take tiny action, take small

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actions, and there is no perfect
action, and you found different ways.

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And one of the other things that
stands out is you are in the company

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of people who are compassionate. So
brings home another point that it is really

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critical who do you surround yourself with. If you surround yourself with people who

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uplift you, encourage you, it's
amazing how much of a potential, the

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human potential can unfold. And then
you continuously kept on taking action and facing

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fear because as you continue to do
it, you kept on building that confidence

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and building that mental muscle because nine
percent of the times we desire to do

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things and we get in our own
way. And when you use that mental

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muscle and keep on using it,
you keep on building it. So that's

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fantastic. So tell us about your
journey when you came to the United States.

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Did you find it any different or
did you just kind of flew into

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it where you transition into new life? How did that? Yeah, obviously

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it was a major culture shock.
I would say, you know, I'm

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originally from Iran and I never left
my family until I came to the US,

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so it was a major major shift. At the time, there's no

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Internet and all of that, so
the communication wasn't as easy as it might

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be right now, so that that
separation was a major shift for me.

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And also going into a culture totally
unknown to me, very very different system

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value systems and all of that.
So yeah, it was it was a

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major shift. So I mean even
even you know, being in I went

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to UC Santa Barbara, which is
which was a beautiful campus, so I

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connected with the ocean, with the
nature, uh, you know, the

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whole dormitory and having roommates was very
difficult, you know, again just getting

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used to that. But really the
two things that I put my focus on

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was nature and studies. I was. I was studied for the most part

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because even the language barrier was there
too. I wasn't influent in English.

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So I remember when I was taking
my first chemistry class, every page I

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had a big dictionary. Again no
Internet at the time to look up for

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words, so every page it would
probably take me about an hour to finish

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reading. So it wasn't it was. It was not easy. But as

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you pointed out, I think these
little experiences of overcoming fear and obstacles,

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like the stuttering example that I mentioned, it builds confidence. So it just

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gives me the I would say,
the strength that I can I can overcome

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this as well. You know,
every little experience builds that confidence and creates

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that possibility sort of rather than being
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So what was the focus of your
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electrical engineering. Okay, so as
you finished computer science and electrical engineering,

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which charm did your life take?
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exciting because I really enjoyed working and
doing things, creating things. So in

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the very first several years of my
career, I was very much in technical

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aspect, you know, as a
designer, you know, designing high speed

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circuitry and chip design and all of
that. So it was it was something

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that I really enjoyed. So for
the first I would say eight years of

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my career, I was very much
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and new designs and all of that. And then slowly and gradually I started

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to get into management and leadership.
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what would you say are your key
lessons that you learn from there? Because

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even today, so many of my
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toxic culture, about toxic bosses,
where they are in a situation that there's

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not much that can be done,
and yet as we continue to evolve into

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leadership, it just sentenced my heart
that, you know, even to this

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day to hear things like this.
So tell us about your key lessons.

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a lot of my work today is just

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that is to work with people to
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into leadership and management was also a
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I remember, we had we had
our we had a design, a new

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design that just came out, and
we were in the process of always in

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the process of testing it in the
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everything is working as expected, right, And every like five minutes, my

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boss used to come and you know, so what's happening? Is he working?

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course I didn't speak up, and
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it. I said, you know, he's not adding any value. In

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fact, it's taking away value.
It's like, what kind of a management

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is this? So at that time
I decided that if I become a manager,

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I'm going to be a really effective
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I'm going to make a difference.
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around my thinking toward rather than sort
of complaining, I decided that I go

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into management and I'm going to be
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was always in the back of my
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the manage you have people reporting to
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value to them, uh and and
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now, of course it's pretty obvious,

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you know, service leadership. Conscious
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that time it was really based on
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of that's fantastic that that situation had
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in that place of being victimized.
So going back to that story, as

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you are talking about the shift,
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the toxic culture and she had tried
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very very effective leader. And then
once we were talking during one of our

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sessions and as we explored the different
situation, was that how about if she

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aligned her boss because her boss like
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questioning, questioning, questioning, as
having that clear expectations like okay, so

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within a day, this will be
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the timeline and it was so interesting
to see that When she did that,

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she found that her boss was more
fearful about the whole project because her job

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was on the line and her boss
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that doesn't excuse any of the things
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she found was that slowly, as
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helping her manage her insecurities and fears, I said, why don't you are

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a leader yourself, why don't you
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as she started doing that, she
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but he had the toxic culture had
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to leave the company. So going
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that servant leadership that you can do
something about it. So as you moved

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into leadership, what would you say
helped your team or what for a couple

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of things or principles that helped your
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you for sharing that example about the
culture that that's true. I mean sometimes,

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unfortunately, if the leadership is not
conscious and willing, it's very difficult

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to shift it, and maybe it's
time to leave so yeah, I can.

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But going back to the culture,

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I think that mindset is really important. The mindset that there's there's maybe

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a few aspects. One is I
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as a manager, I need to
bring value to my followers. So that

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by itself gives a lot of healthy
connection because they they you know, they,

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I would say, the team members
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of a heart connection almost because I'm
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important, which which I think it's it's

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absent in a lot of managers because
they're very numbers driven and it's just results,

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and they sometimes look at employees as
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that the just that care slash service
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a lot more understanding and a lot
more geared toward the development of employees and

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finding their gifts, finding their genius
zones rather than looking at them as just

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placeholders, because, as you know, people don't do things a lot of

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times intentionally, you know, if
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made, it's not a lot of
it is not intentional. It's it's just

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they don't know any better, you
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the leader is to help with that, is to sort of raise the level

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of consciousness and awareness and then really
put some spotlight on bright spots, you

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know, bring the bright spots to
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strengths, what are the gifts,
what are the genius zones? Working with

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that rather than sort of the opposite
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M No, Definitely that makes sense
because when you're caring, human beings

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are designed to reciprocate because at least
ninety to ninety five times, what I've

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found is that even if you're walking
down a street and if you smile at

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someone, even if they don't smile
a full smile back, they'll at least

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to give a sentence of a smile. And especially as a leader, if

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you're vested in them, if you're
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as you mentioned, then, of
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They feel as you mentioned about,
like, you know, having that

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heart connection and finding meaning in the
work and excelling and when they excel,

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automatically, the whole team excels,
and you excel because you're looking good because

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they're performing. And it is such
a simple thing now there to understand that

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when you're supporting others, they will
support you. And yet, as you

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mentioned your personal experience of micromanagement,
I've had personally some of those bosses where

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there is micromanagement. And then,
of course, so many of my clients

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have also shared that you mentioned about
that they don't know better. So similarly,

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let's explore that about the leaders.
I'm assuming that they are also in

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a place because if you're aware and
if you have that consciousness, it's very

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hard not to act on it.
So how can leaders, let's say,

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you know, as our audience is
listening, regardless whether an entrepreneurial leader,

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wherever you are at, let's say
you're in that place of unconsciousness, how

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can you bring yourself to that consciousness
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really two aspects. It is almost
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and go wherever you want to go. One is mindset, the other one

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is skill set, and they're both
really important. The mindset really a lot

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of it has to do with some
of the things we talked about, what

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are the stories in your mind?
Because, as you know, everyone lives

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in their own stories, right,
you know, they perceive reality as as

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a story, and that story may
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reality, but it is what it
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right. So the one is just
being aware of that that everyone lives in

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their own stories, and stories are
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is the same. So just having
that, just having that possibility that let

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me evaluate my story and let me
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a level of awareness and consciousness into
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there are a lot of mindset oriented
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I mean it is it is really
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responding to the world as a victim
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formulations of thoughts, you know,
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you go about your life expecting or
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mutual collaborative clear agreements with other people. So again, these are all the

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mindset pieces, and of course the
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do with just the technicality, the
operations aspect of it, um, just

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just you know, the management and
how to do X y Z. So

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they're both really important something you know, one is inner and the other one

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is going out and connecting and doing
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think really both both pieces are really
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always encourage. Now. Having said
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because without the mindset, if you
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have the right mindset, is still
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obviously if you have the right mindset
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will not be effective. But I
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think it's really important to put a
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head, all these stories that we
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out a lot of times the ego
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get that away? How do you
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and you know, move away from
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you know, I was one of
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I was a very egoic driver at
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see how how ineffective it can be. Again, at the time, the

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story in my mind was I have
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things happen. It's like, you
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when I look back and said,
oh my god, that that was far

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from being effective leader. So what
really touched me was when you share that,

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become aware of your stories and also
understand that other people have stories,

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because when you go about that way, then what's happening is that not only

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you understanding yourself, but you're understanding
others that, yes, the external reality

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is the same, and yet the
perception is going to be different because everybody's

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experience is different. And definitely having
that mindset really helps. Exactly. Yeah,

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that's and that's not easy because we're
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is our reality. You know,
we have and we have we have facts

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and figures there's a lot of people
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know, and they have all the
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sense for them. So going outside
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of maybe ambiguity or confusion is not
comfortable. So it's not easy, but

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it's absolutely necessary to be able to
go beyond and sort of expand our layers

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of consciousness and see the possibilities in
other people's stories as well. So tell

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us about your journey of becoming a
CEO and what leanings did you pack into

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your life from that experience. Yeah, I mean it's um, you know,

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it was just a bit of unfolding. So I went into management for

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many years and basically moved up the
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that came up to start a company, and that was a very intense but

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very exciting and creative experience and um
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a team and by the way,
the team was because of this whole experience

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of leadership and management and creating the
culture. I put a lot of emphasis

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there. So from from day one
when I started the company, the very

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first thing I did was put a
one sheet on these are the core values,

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and anybody and everybody that I hired, I put that right in front

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of their face and said, this
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or not? I mean and and
so I think that really made a lot

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of difference because every person that I
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an underlying alignment and synergy because of
that core principles. And we really treated

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each other as team team members,
very strong, very accountable, and very

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result oriented. So that actually made
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I would say, is the people
really really great people, And and

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you know the rest just followed.
You know, if you have the right

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people, if you have great people, UM, any obstacle there is,

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there are ways to go at it
and actually unfold. So so I did

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that and it was a great experience
for all of us UM and we sold

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the company to Cisco, and through
the acquisition, me and my team joined

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Cisco and we started a business unit
and ran that for about seven years before

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I left and started another company.
But but the whole concept of starting from

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scratch putting a lot of emphasis on
culture, on the kind of people that

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you bring to the table on clarifying
the vision was really really important lessons for

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me. And it goes back to
again what we started out in the beginning

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when you said that like intentionality,
vision, everything it pulls together. Is

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that not only you had that intention
first that I want to have a team.

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I want to have company which is
based on core values and respect and

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nurturing them so you hide the right
people and then together y'all created a culture

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where people thrived even though the focus
was on result driven. Yet you had

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that respect amongst each other while holding
each other accountable, and that speaks to

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the success of the team. So
going back to the story of music,

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you have mentioned about music and music
is something which is so universal we don't

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even have to know the words that
are being spoken or anything. Just like

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sports brings people together, same as
the music. Music brings people from any

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walk of life together. So tell
us, have you how did the music

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continue and if you want to share
with us, want to play something for

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us, that would be great.
Sure. Yeah, yeah, music is

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you know, I think we've mentioned
earlier that I think music is a language

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of the soul and you know,
as you mentioned soul doesn't know any colors,

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any races, any religions. I
mean, it's like we're all we're

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all together, right, So it
is the threat that connects us all.

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So that's another beauty of music.
And again, the other part of music

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to me is is is a tool. Is a tool that can be used

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for expression of beauty actually, and
and sort of beauty points points us to

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our source in a sense. So
it's a kind of an inner outer experience.

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It's it's very um wonderful, wonderful
gift that I think we have on

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this earth. So so yeah,
I play music. I use that as

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part of my work as well,
because I think music and vibration has healing

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properties. It's it's meditative properties.
As I mentioned, it invites you to

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be present, and it also invites
you to be open to your own stories

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because music actually sometimes unlocks some of
these emotional imprints that are in our body

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and mind, so it actually invites
us to unfold and explore. It's a

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wonderful, wonderful experience. And as
I mentioned to you, what I do

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is I pick up an instrument and
start playing. A few years ago I

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picked up I actually I was listening
to a YouTube video from Sam Moher.

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I don't know if you know him, but he plays hand pans, and

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so I was listening to that.
It's called in New York. It's a

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beautiful piece. I was really inspired. I said, this is a beautiful

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instrument. Um. So the next
thing is I ordered it online and I

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got this instruments, start playing and
and really got hooked to it. So

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that's that's one of the one of
the instruments that I play. Um again.

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I started out with piano, you
know, as I mentioned to you

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in my in my childhood, just
playing with piano. Then I started experimenting

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with some string instruments, then some
wind instruments, UM percussions, lots of

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percussions, and obviously hand hand pan
and another story again going back to setting

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these big goals for myself. Um
again. All these time I've been tinkering

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and playing and creating some songs for
for my own enjoyment. And then a

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few years ago I decided, hey, why not do a recording, why

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not create an album? So I
actually put it put an intention for myself

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that I want to give myself a
birthday gift and use this possibility to create,

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to put it all these all these
songs together in an album. So

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yeah, so so I did and
that was, to be honest, that

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was probably the most creative and intensive
experience of my life so far. It

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was. It was a beautiful experience. I actually managed to hire someone to

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help you with the recordings, with
the mixing, with the mastering. I

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mean, just learn the whole process
of you know, what it takes to

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bring an album to life. And
then um so so now that's that's what

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it is. You know, if
you look me up on Spotify or Amazon

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or iTunes, is there and you
know one of the instruments that I mentioned

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to you is I can show you
it's called UM. Just okay, so

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this this is the handpan that I
was talking about. UM. This this

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is a kind of a mix of
UM, I would say, um,

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percussion and melodic instrument. You know, it's it has it has both.

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Let me actually put this down so
you can see a little bit better.

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Yeah, so this one has has
built both those capabilities. You can actually

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create tunes and at the same time
there is a percussion, uh sort of

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underlying character to it as well.
So I'll just I just play a little

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bit so that you can get a
feed for it. Um. This was

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the one that I got inspired by
watching that YouTube video there we go.

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Can you hear it? Actually,
that's beautiful. Wow, something along these

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lines that's amazing. Like every day
I find that you get to learn something

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new. Not only today. I
learned about a new instrument. And that's

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something I have tried. I don't
have the musical aptitude or gift. I

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keep on trying. I have heard
that before. One of the things I

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do with almost all my clients I
encourage them it doesn't have to be music,

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but an instrumental expression. It could
be music, it could be painting,

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it could be dance, it could
be writing. I think it's so

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important. And every one of my
clients say, well, I don't have

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talent, No you do. I
actually help them to again, do a

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little bit of these muscles, build
up these muscles, and then over time

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I keep you not some of my
clients they have never touched the music and

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instrument, and in a year they
can play along with me. Actually,

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so it's just a matter of practice. Well, thank you for the encouragement,

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and I'll definitely give another try.
So thank you for sharing your wisdom

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and playing for us really appreciate that. So can you share with us what

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is it that you do and any
how can people reach you? Anything else

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you would like to share with our
audiences. Absolutely, Well, yeah,

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the most partum you know, after
um, after I went through the you

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know, building up companies and and
uh, you know, so going through

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the whole operational aspect, I decided
to devote my life to executive coaching and

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to help other leaders, other CEOs, other entrepreneurs. And one of the

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reasons is because I have been there. I have been going through a lot

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of difficult ups and downs, and
you know, it's always lonely at the

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top as a CEO or a business
owner or entrepreneur. It's difficult. And

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I didn't have a person like a
coach. So so that's that's why i'm

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I'm I want to be there for
them, and I think it makes such

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a big difference. Um, So
that that's what I do. I devote

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myself for kind of helping bring more
conscious leaders to the world, and and

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my focus is unconscious leadership. I
my first book a few years ago,

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on Path to Freedom, which sort
of shares my insights and and sort of

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experiences. And now I'm currently working
on my second book, which is Unconscious

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Leadership. Obviously I have my my
music album as well, but UM,

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so to to reach me, I
have a website Sceneries dot com that's c

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AN E, R G, I
S T and over there I sort of

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explain the kind of services. You
know. I do one on one executive

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coaching, I do intensive retreats,
I do a lot of workshops. UM

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uh, you know, there's a
lot of uh, you know, kind

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of the whole concept is a unconscious
leadership. So that's that's really what what

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I do UM for for this phase
of my life. There's a lot of

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the there's a lot of UM,
I would say, reward and UM,

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I'm passion for me to really help
other entrepreneurs and UM and CEOs too,

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to help them build conscious leaders and
conscious businesses. Well, you are on

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a great path and that's what we
talked about, being present and bringing that

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consciousness and bringing awareness and you can
be leader wherever you are at. So

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thank you Nadir for joining us and
sharing your nuggets with us. I'm sure

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our listeners will get a lot of
value. And folks, you can check

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out Nadir at his website and his
book. So thank you for joining us.

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It was a pleasure to be here. Thank you so much, absolutely,

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