Why Joy May Be the Medicine We’re Missing

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0:52 Moving your career business forward does not have to happen at the expense of your personal or family life or vice versa. Learn more at WWWA. You don't divpark dot com and you can connect with div at contact ats divpark dot com. This is beyond confidence and now here's your host, div Park. Good morning listeners, it's Tuesday, and of course, as always, it's a joy to be with you. And with everything happening in the world, people are hurting, people are experiencing challenges, and yet the joy of being alive is always there and how can we bring that joy back in even in the midst of hardest of hardest times. So one of the things that is going on is the artificial intelligence, where it is on one hand, leveling the playing field where people can do so many things that they were not able to do before. And on the other hand, it's a harsh reality that jobs are being gone, even though we're not seeing it completely right now, but they're massively off happening. So when people are going for interview, what separates them from the other people who have their answers from AI? So the key is as to how

2:25 they are thinking. It is separating the strategic thinkers from just AI generated answers. And if you are looking to do that, or even if you're looking to grow in your profession, or if you're an entrepreneur, How do you go out there and stand out, not in the social media noise, but not also in the digital footprint, but in the era of AI. Get our book the AI Agency, and of course there are other books. Thank you for getting our books because part of the partial proceeds go to kiwa dot org. And let's talk about bringing that joy amidst all the fears that exist.

3:13 Malcolm, Ddie, thank you for having me, Davia glad to be here. Well, it's great to have you. So Eddie, do you recall a moment there in your early life or later somebody or some situation left the post to mark on you. Oh, there are so many, but let's start on the early part. So when I was in high school, I read a book about mother Trisa and that she left a big mark on my heart, and I thought she was the coolest a person. She got a calling and that's what she wanted to do in her life and she did it. So that's what I thought. She was the coolest person. Despite all odds. She accomplished so much, and so I decided I wanted to meet her and that I was able to meet her at Meet and Greet while she was in visiting Japan. I'm originally from Japan, but I really wanted to go where she actually does what she does. So after college, I flew to India and volunteered at Home Foro Dying Destitute in Calcutta. And I volunteered there and I was able to meet her again.

4:36 She I did a little bit shook hands. So I was really happy being able to be in her presence and joyful presence despite all the hard work she does. But on the other hand, I saw many other volunteers who are healthcare professionals doing studying an ivy, dressing the wound. I had no medical training at that point, so I was only feed the people or put a powder on the patients after their bath. That was all I could do. So I said, someday, if I were to come back or do something like this, I really need more training.

5:17 And that's the beginning of my healthcare career. Ah and Japan. People have such a fascination for Japan because there's so many ikey guy and you know those philosophical principles that have been gifted to the world, Yes, from the culture of Japan. So what are a couple of things that you carried with yourself from Japan. So it's funny you mentioned I Guy right after bad because that's one of my guiding principles. So ikey guy, you know, I when I was in Japan, I simply thought of that as life's purpose. But as it was introduced to the world, people in the English speaking world started to understand the ikey guy, which is the intersection of what you love, what you're good at, and what the world needs and what can sustain you, you know, meaning you can have income from that. And you know, after I struggled a little bit, after I left healthcare system and became an entrepreneur, gallery owner, artist, I found ikey guy all over again. Healthcare was my ike Guy at the beginning, after mother trisser and working as a nurs practitioner for thirty almost thirty years, but then that

6:50 changed over time. And now you know, as an artist having my own gallery, doing what I love to do every day and people love it and I can make a living doing it, so it's so joyful. It's Ekey Guy. Every single day I'm leaving my Ekey Guide. So I think that is a gift from Japan the concept to the. World, absolutely, and there are other concepts like from Linsi Sigma that I have used, Kenman and Kaisen and it's just I'm definitely a fan of a lot of the principles from Japan. So you mentioned that Mother Teresa's joyful presence, So what can you share a couple of things about her, like, you know, what did you experience with her? What did you take away from your meetings with her?

7:49 Yes, she is a tiny little person, but you can I kind of have an image that like an energizer bunny, So I have this kind of long lasting battery. And she's running around this little home for dying destitute this way, that way. But you know, but she has the presence. She talks to each patient, each volunteer, and she has the presence full of love, care for every single person, and also joyful and she jokes around. She's laughing in this little temple full of dying people. But it's it's a very solemn and serious place on one hand, but on the other hand, the people who are walking there there seems to be content, you know, loving what they're doing, helping everybody. And so she's leading this and she's you know, taking care of patients, touching everybody, but On the other hand, I see her in the distance one time and she's walking with a nice gentleman, and that somebody whispers to me, you know who that is that gentleman. He's the Prime Minister from France. So she's so humble and so unassuming that she is talking to you know, she's a friend with the Princess Diana, or the royalties and all the you know, the head of the States, and so she

9:20 just handles this beautifully without any ego, any self consciousness. She does what she does step by step, and she's and also I went to the mass at the Missionaries of Charity, and I thought she would be presiding over the whole thing, but then no, she came a little bit late, and she sat in the very back, very quiet, and nobody would have noticed her, only because I was looking for where is she? Where is she? So she's very humble, yet she's huge in that little tiny body, but just she's you know, have this quite small and just feel the energy the aura that love. So she's amazing and I was so so lucky to have been able to talk to her and shook hands and that I remember she had the softest hand. I was expecting really rough, callousy hand with all the things she does, but she got the softest, warmest hand. I never forget that I was only eighteen or so when that happened.

10:29 Well, what a blessing. And you mentioned that you were in the healthcare because she inspired you to go and help people. So what was your journey like as a norse practitioner. So after I volunteered at the Mother Trice's home for the institute, I thought I needed to do something, and I also needed to learn English better. So I came to the US and enrolled in English as a second language. Then I started to do nurses AID. Since the vocational nursing, I'll ben and RN and master's degree in Nurse Practitioner. It's a lot, you know. It's always like this in my life. Something I need to do, it unfolds itself.

11:14 Somebody will tell me, because I did know anything about LVN or nurs practitioner. But when it's time, somebody will tell me, oh, here's another program you might be good for you and I go there and do it. And then after I got my RN, somebody tell me, oh, there's such thing as nurse practitioner. You might be interested in Okay, I'll look into it. And I did it. So over eight years, I'm going to school, I'm working in the evening at the hospital. So I did both for about eight years until I got my master's degree for nurs practitioner. And I loved taking care of patients. I loved working in a hospital. So I felt like, yeah, I did it. I'm working on my mission like mother Trisa.

12:02 So I really love the interaction with the patients every day. And then after I finished working at the floor nursing, I became an instructition at my own office. I had a corner office, beautiful corner office. I was able to schedule my patients the way I like it, so I had an ideal setting. My husband is a physician, and he's always jealous of my position. Like you're working, you know, at your own pace, and you have weekends off and evening it's off and holidays off, and I'm working evenings and uncles. He was always jealous of me. But over time, you know, I was in healthcare for almost thirty years, and over time, the computer caming you mentioned AI, the computer came in and we have to do more and more documentation in a computer and there's more regulation, more insurance, more restrictions, and we were not able to as a healthcare provider. We were not able to practice medicine as the way we used to patients. Patient was not the center anymore. It was about liability, productivities, and documentation. It became a center stage, not patients. So it wasn't just me, but a lot of healthcare professionals. Clinicians started to get more stressed out, burned out, depressed, and I saw that

13:34 in so many of my colleagues. And that's when I got involved into National Academy of Medicine Clinician Well Being Committee, and yeah, so because it became a national issue and more clinicians committing suicidey depressed, having PTSD, so it was a serious problem. This is even before COVID and the studied in nineteen seventeen or eighteen or twenty eighteen. Sorry, And so I wanted to be part of it. And luckily I started to painting in about two thousand and eight, so I already had ten years of art education, and when the National Academy of Medicine called for art artistic representation of clinician wellbeing and burnout, I had a whole body of work deficting healthcare professionals good days and bad days.

14:34 I submitted several of them, and they picked one of my portraits of my husband kind of looking depressed as kind of a postal void for depression and clinical clinicians burnout. So that's how I got involved in this kind of prevention of burnout using art as a healing tool involvement movement, So that's kind of but I started to use art for healing purposes. So yeah, I know. That is that is really really allowing to hear that clinicians were committing suicide, and because that patient care not being the center, you know, it takes away from the purpose of the clinicians what they're doing. And I can definitely say that that for some of the physicians that I've been with, they've still maintained even though they have to record everything and as things are emerging, but having that piece of humanity. But I can definitely see why it caused a bone out. So since you mentioned that art therapy was coming into with the clinicians as well, so tell us how it has grown m HM.

15:59 So well, the first encounter was one of my husband's portrait, you know, kind of looking depressed. It's called at the end of the day. So he's holding his head, the faces half in shadow. And then first my husband did not like that, because why are you painting me like that? But then as I have it in my studio and I you know, put it on my Facebook and song, and so many people resonated with that painting. And it wasn't only healthcare professionals, but people who are maybe it could be teachers, could be anybody. But you know, people have this bad day at the end of the day.

16:42 You're so exhausted, you know, you don't even want to communicate. You just you can only hold your heads and take us, you know, deep breath. So so many people resonated with that painting, and so that means, you know, that painting does have to be necessarily this beautiful, pretty colorful thing, but just depicting the reality with the emotion, strong emotion, people can connect. And because my husband, you know, at the beginning, he didn't like it, but he got so many good comments about it. Oh, I love your painting. This is so much I can totally relate. And now he loves the painting. And that's so I think it's that kind of depiction will tell people you're not alone in this. You're not the only person who are exhausted, depressed, stressed out to burn it out. So something kind of representing somebody's emotion. I think that's one of the elements of healing art at least.

17:47 Yeah, yeah, and that makes sense because what happens is on social media, people are putting their best pictures. Right you see people even in hospitals have a smile on their face and that shows that they're brave. But you don't see many pictures where people are posting their pictures as reality that hey, I'm feeling this or so tell us, like, you know, how can our listeners and audience can take that art therapy and bring it into their lives. So there are you know, quite a few research done since then over the last ten, maybe even twenty years about art therapy and how much art has the power of healing, and that either you're going to be the artist's creator or just receiving and you're just viewing art.

18:44 Either way, it does seem to have a huge impact on physiologically, emotionally, psychologically. So part of the let's say, so if you're cancer patients and try on art therapy. So part of the you know, they'll usually provide each hospital clinics will have arto therapists, you know, the bigger hospital would have arto therapists and classes, so they will teach you some easy way to start art. And then number one, so you will learn something new. It's kind of a diverse and distraction from something that stressed you out. But also it's kind of fun. It's kind of make you do certain things and that can be meditative that again take your mind off of something else that stresses you and it's fun. You're doing with a bunch of other people and that that's kind of fun. It's a community working on something similar and also just using some kind of physical you know, using your hands. That's kind of fun. But also just that the process of creating using different parts of the brain from you might be in a rut thinking about what's going to happen to me, thinking about their health, but also use totally different parts of the brain being creative doing something new. So that will kind of start to create a new path in your brain. And so the research would show, you know, it will loyer broad pressure, loyal breathing rate, and the decreased code is all increase the well being, sense of

20:15 well being, the sense of community. And also you're expressing yourself in the way you could not before. And many people have problem describing or expressing verbally, but they can do it the way they like it with the color, the shape, or the strength of the lines they draw, so they can express it something they could not express before. So there are so many different benefits, so I think, you know, people may want to give it a shot. I do teach art classes locally, mostly for beginners, and most of the people coming, oh, I'm such a bad artist.

20:56 I can only drawstick figure. I cannot even draw stick figure. And I said, don't worry about it. You know, maybe summer somewhere in the past somebody told you your art is not good enough. But forget that. It's not for your teacher, it's not for any audience. It's for you to have fun. So I do like a coffee painting workshop. Only thing you use is coffee. You can drink coffee, but you can dip your brush, clean brush into the coffee, uh, and then sat drawing on a piece of paper and you might glue your crystal instant coffee or coffee beans on it and make a beautiful art. And it's all abstracted.

21:37 When I first start teaching them, I do abstract So that's not wrong picture. There's no wrong answer. Everything is a masterpiece. Just give it a shot however you like it, and people have fun because you know nobody's watching there, nobody's judging you good or bad, so they express it. Even some people who had oh I'm a bad artist. Not they make beautiful art. They're proud of it. So just do something fun and it doesn't have to be visual art. Many people come into my gallery that, oh, I'm not an artist. I wish I could do something like you do. No, I know you're an artist. You just don't know it. You're not admitting it, or it's just a totally different outlet. I'm sure you're a better cook than I am, or you're a better gardener than I am. Or maybe a musician, you sing, dance, whatever, a poetry blogger, whatever, you can write better. So you are an artist, you just don't know that. It took me many, many years before I can admit and call myself an artist. So I just encourage everybody to pick up something that you think you enjoy. What did you enjoy when you were five years old? Did you like to draw? Did you like to dance? You know, go back and start doing it. It's fun, like you know, as they say, like nobody's watching or saying like nobody's listening. Yeah.

23:04 Yeah. So what I'm hearing, Eddie is that find an outlet for expression and then all that pentap energy, all of that. So what you're doing is that things that are just weighing heavily on your mind and the weight of emotions that you're carrying. And when you find that art, you're letting it out and you are expressing, and you are making use of all the other parts. And especially like if you're doing art, like you are using all the senses. If you think about it, it's touch, maybe not a smell, but you're using multiple of your sensory organs and that can create such a rich experience and that you can carry because as you're sharing that, it doesn't have to be just one thing. Whatever speaks to you.

23:57 So tell us about your journey, like you mentioned, and that you have created order series. So tell us how that evolved from the corporate of your husband. Let's see, So I was in healthcare and started to feel a little burning out. And that's when the art came into my life. So I really studied. First it was just. A personal enrichment to a hobby, but the more I find out about the healing power of art, I really got into it. Then decreased the hours at the hospital from full time to part time and use three days weekend to do more art. And yeah, so that was my way of work life balance. And then one day hospital asked me, you know, we really want you back to full time and because we value your work. And we talked about this before and you didn't want it, but this time you better go back to full time because otherwise we're going to eliminate your part time position.

25:01 So I thought, oh, that's an interesting way to approach it. And but if you put it that way, even though I'm going to lose my insurance, income, benefits all that, but I'd rather be free. I'd rather go into art and do my own thing. So I'm going to resign from the hospital position. So it was scary and it was a big leap, but I needed it. So here I am. I know nothing about business, nothing about sales or marketing. So about two three years. That was sort of the dark night of the soul. I'm trying to, you know, make a living as an artist and didn't know anything about selling business. But at the same time I was learning like crazy, I'm investing. I use my saving to invest in myself in education, new kind of education, in coaching, learning, business, marketing. Mindset shift. That was big mindset shift that you know, I don't have to be a starving artist. I can be a profitable, thriving artist.

26:08 So that was about two three years of incubation period and at the end I got two things. Another wise artist, you told me, if you want to make a living as an artist in this area, Mote Cameo area, we're famous for our beautiful coastline and also forest and so landscape sales, sea scape cells, but also sea auto sells. So I was so I thought, well, I've done landscapes and sea scapes and they're nice, but they're not my passion. So I give see arter a shot. See what happens. So I painted a few sea arters, people loved it, sold quickly, and then by chance again this is my life story. At the right time, some right person will come and giving the right path and a sea. Auto researcher contacted me by email. I love your order. I bought your order in the past, and now I want you to paint the scream edward munches over here scream painting and put an other face instead of human face because I must see auto researcher. So I thought, that's a great idea. I'd love to do that, and I painted other scream. She loved it. I loved it. And I also have an art business coach at the time, and he was kind of frustrated because I could not find a niche and uh so at this particular meeting, he says, so what's going on and do you have

27:40 any traction with something? So I said, yeah, see, others is picking up and I saw the som and I got this awesome commission to do this other scream and he loved the idea too, so and then we had this amazing brainstorm session. Oh yeah, you can do more a Lisa can do Girl with the Poorer Earie, we can do American Gothic, we can do Van Go, we can do because we can do da da da Da da da da. So it had a great time and then I got to work and I painted maybe about ten others. Girl the Poorer, Earring, the Vango, the Mona Lisa behind me, if somebody people can see it. So and then that's about the same time. I opened my own gallery twenty twenty four in spring, and I put some orders in the front windows. And as soon as I opened my gallery, people start to come in, or even if they don't come in, they're laughing their head off looking at it. Scream Ords or Mona Otter and they're laughing, having a great time. And people who do come in they want to see more ords. No what else do you get? You know, and people start to buy other paintings or prints. And so as soon as I opened the gallery, orter therapy. I'll come back to auto therapy. But you know, this out series speaks a hit.

29:01 And so I was able to sustain my gallery and art career with my orders. And what I did not expect was not only my orders help people smile and laugh, It turned out they are healing as well in some cases. Yeah, so that was an expect of it. Yeah. So some people who cannot afford to buy anything, even you prints or anything, but I'll give them either business card or postcard and they'll take them home and put it on a refrigerator or on the wall, and they would come back and tell me or send me an email. You know your order, you know, I just look at it every day. That makes me smile. I'm an old lady, I live alone. I'm lonely, but when I look at your other it makes me smile, so it kind of keeps me company. So that's one comment that came early on.

29:57 Another one is another older lady who lives alone, and that she had a surgery, but she already bought maybe ten of my orders to decorate the wall, just because she loved them. And after the surgery, I didn't hear from her for about three months, and finally she contacted me. You know, the surgery didn't go very well. I was in a lot of pain. I was so depressed. But when I look at your orders, they make me smile, so it just eased my pain. So made my day so like. So that's when I realized that my orders are healing. So I haven't left the healing serving profession, the mission that I learned from mother t research. So I'm still helping people, serving people with my little other therapist out there in the world. So that kind of came full circle into the mission. And so that's why I started to call this other therapy. If you're smiling, it's working. You don't have to buy anything, just look at the window, have a good laugh, and have a good day. So that's my other therapy.

31:08 Oh that's beautiful. How you transferred to your healing energy from nurse practitioner into your paintings, because then you paint especially like you did not know about this, but now since you know that your orders are healing other people, what has changed for you as you paint more order paintings. That's a good question. Yeah, so I connect with the customers. This is not a typical gallery. There are seventy eighty galleries in Cameo by the Sea, and most of the galleries are commercial gallery, meaning the artist is not there, you know. But I'm here all the time and I'm painting here. So we have a conversation and a lot of time store will come in and ask me what others they want next. So, oh, you utter paint Steph Currier, your utter paint bridal Otter or your out paint this and that. So I'm taking notes. I have like one hundred more orthers to paint at this point. But if people ask me, like multiple people ask me, then there is the need. You know, people want to see certain others drinking coffee or eating cookies or looking like a little baby shaving the food in the mouse not cut little orters. So people give me different ideas. They're there

32:41 ideal version of the orders they want to see that soothes them, that make them smile. So I'm incorporating a lot of those. So yeah, So lots of ideas come from my customers and it's kind of a collaboration. Yeah, that is beautiful, addie. So what are some couple of things that you can share with our listeners that they can take it today and bring it in their lives to bring enjoy humor. So yeah, maybe going back to ikey guy, so what you love to do? I'm also a life coach and wellness coach, and so that the coach in me come out when I'm talking to you know, visitors come in here and I often ask them because they're admiring arts.

33:37 So I often ask and are you an artist? What do you create? And some of them say yes, and some of them say, nah, I'm not an artist. So I try to kind of dig something out of them. So tell me more what you like to do. So I'm trying to get that ikey guy out of them. So what do you like to do? What gives you joy? What kind of activity is that? The music? Gardening? So I think it's good to kind of go back and you can find how to find ikey guy with those four questions. What you love, what you're good at, and sometimes what you are good at you may not know. That was one of my problems. I liked art in general, but it only took my husband's insistence for me to go to art school. Just, you know, give you a quick story. I was not really interested in learning art or you know, becoming an artist. That was not my life plan. But I did a little quick sketch when I was in spring break during college, and then I had it in a pile of paper, and when I got together with my husband, I show it to my husband. Oh, look, this is what I did when I was vacation in Paris.

34:53 Just I was bored because everything was closed on Easter Sunday, nothing else to do. I just did a little quick sketch and then I tossed it in that trash and he said, what are you doing. I said, well, it's just the old piece of paper. I'm tossing it. I'm cleaning things up. And my husband said, you know, that's amazing art. You cannot throw it away. We're gonna frame it. We're gonna display in the dining room. You should go to art school. So my mother's side has lots of artists, amateur artists. They can draw, they can paint, they can make some leather craft. So it was nothing special for me. So it took my husband to recognize the artist in me, and he insisted that I go to art school and cultivate andnurture the artistic talent. So sometimes you may have to ask around your family, your friends, what do you think I'm good at? You know, because if it's your own nature, you may not know that. So first what you love to do and what you're good at, ask your friends or family, and then something that the world needs.

35:58 And then you can make a living. So you do the little you know, set aside sometime and do that. But most of all, as I give you joy, but give you joy, so joy be your guide. So whatever that feels good, you know, go towards that direction. So you know, get away from the something that pulls you down. You know, people the same thing, people who lift you up. You know, go with a person, the hang out with those people and get a coach. And I have so many coaches or business mindset as I mentioned, So hang out with the people who would elevate you and try to mirror after somebody, learn from somebody who are doing what you're doing. So, you know, because people have accomplished something that you want to do already or at least no part of the way. So instead of trying to invent the wheel from scratch, you know, just learn from the expert. You know, they can guide you, you know, take you to the next step. And that's what I'm doing.

37:03 And I have probably like twenty coaches in my life so far, so you know, a certain person take me to this area in finance, in the business, in the mindset and art. So I just you know, and I'm so grateful for all those people. And that's another key word, gratitude. So just appreciate everything you're doingly. Yeah, and that oh sorry, I was going to mention earlier something about burnout. So burnout happens when you don't find joining what you're doing. So you know, I spend about seventy seventy hours a week in my gallery just because I want to do it.

37:49 If I did it in my clinic the way it was with the computer, work seventy hours, it'll totally burn me out. But when you're enjoying what you're doing, if it's your egy guy, if you find joining doing it, I don't get burnout. It's just pure fun. I cannot get enough of painting time and interaction with my customers. So you know, burnout is not just working hard or working many hours. It's lack of joy, lack of alignment, you know, with your value in your life. Absolutely, so that is such a I really like what you said. Let joy be your guide as you're discovering yourself.

38:30 So how can people connect with you? Where can they find your gallery? Okay, my website is my name Ediematsmotel dot com, E D I M A T s U M O T L dot com or you can look up other therapy on Amazon by Ediemat's model. And my gallery is in downtown Carmel. It's on Mission Street. Yeah, it's on Mission Street. And interestingly Carmel is the only town in United States that doesn't have physical address. I cannot tell you although it's supposed to be after one hundred years of battle to have a physical address or not. Now we are about to have a physical address, or possibly it's five thirty nine Mission Street that it's not come firmed yet. Anyway, I'm on Mission Street and fifth in Camel downtown, Camel by the Sea on central California, about to ourself of San Francisco. It's a beautiful town, lots of gallery so you can have fun. But I'm the only one with other therapy.

39:39 Carmel is beautiful because when we had taken trip down from La down to San Francisco on Highway one, just every little town on the way beautiful. Well, thank you for joining us. Eddie enjoyed our conversation and I'm sure your orders will keep on bringing joy to different people. And I'm sure audience, you know you can go check it out and maybe get a print for your own house. So thank you and thank you wonderful audience. I do want to share, even if somebody may not let you know that they may believe in you, I want to let you know I believe in each and every one of you, and I know that you can have that life full of joy and humor with heart and love.

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