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Radio. This is Beyond Confidence with
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here's your host, give you a
Parnk. Good morning, listeners. It's

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been a morning and here's what I'm
going to share with you. So had

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a lot of mix up today,
so but that's how sometimes the morning gets

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started. But I'm thrilled to be
here with you. It's Tuesday morning,

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and let's see if we can get
you all some very good wisdom nuggets today

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so that you can live your lives
better. So thank you everyone for those

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who have gotten their books, and
if you have not, pleased, get

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our copies. Expert to influencer in
Entrepreneur's Garden. And one of the things

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is realizing that when I talk about
kindness, it's also important to be kind

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to yourself because you can make mistakes. So just to kind of share,

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like you know what happened, is
like there are some incidences, like you

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know that we're happening repeatedly, And
then I was trying to get before it,

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but in my jest to be like
making sure things start on time,

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because last time we didn't start on
time, So it's like, okay,

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let's get started on time. I
made a mistake myself, and all I

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can say is that, hey,
I am perfectly imperfect. So that said,

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as I've mentioned, it's important to
be kind to yourself, as I

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always say, you know, be
kind to others. So kindness does stretch

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to yourself. So we are starting
on time and happy to share that.

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And let's bring in our guest.
I think, ya, how are you

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good? How are you Beverly?
Yeah, thank you so much for having

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me. Oh, it's a pleasure
to have you. So share with me

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if you're a column moment from your
childhood that still stands out for you today.

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Yes, for sure. You know, when I was, when I

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was just really young, I used
to gather up the kids from the neighborhood

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and I would write little plays and
I would give them parts and direct them

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in these little plays, and we'd
perform them in people's garages and the parents

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would come and be our audience and
stuff. And in spite of that,

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you know, like you know,
so I showed an early passion for writing

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and directing things, and and but
my parents thought that I should be a

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CPA. So that sounds so much
fun, right, like finding a good

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that garages? Did you sell any
tickets? No? Just it was free

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admission for the parents and the siblings
and other kids in the play. So

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just the neighborhood, right, But
parents had to come, right, it's

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I had to come. Yeah,
No, I go back. And sometimes

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I still remember, like you know, reading my stories to people that they

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were interested or not. So I
watched a lot of I watched a lot

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of TV shows growing up that had
you know what I remember in Bewitched,

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that show they had, you know, an ad agency, And so I

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decided, well, I want to
use my writing skill to to work in

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an ad agency, and that I
actually did. I Fortunately I did not

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become a CPA like my parents had
planned for me. That would not fit

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personality at all, but I did. I did go into ad agency work

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at one point. Interesting, Well, our parents have their dreams for us,

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and of course we have our own
ideas, and it's always interesting,

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doesn't matter of which two generations it
is. I've seen multiple generations, and

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there's always that conflict because the initial
generation always they know better than the other

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generation. The other generation things though
you're told you don't know what I'm thinking,

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so as you grew up, did
your interest in writing and stage acting

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and directing, like, did it
continue in high school? Not so much,

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not until like I got to college
and I had declared a business major,

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really trying to take the practical decision
that my parents had recommended, you

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know that this is your sure shoe
in for a career, which you know,

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I've come to stand totally against that
kind of you know, aspiration.

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But so when I took my first
journalism, of course, I knew it

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was a natural thing for me.
I jumped right in, and my teachers

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were very helpful at getting me like
internships, so I got practical experience because

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what I actually learned in the classroom, I already knew it was in eight

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It was it was just part of
who I was. And I actually had

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friends who were also journalists and majors, and they would like buy all the

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books and study for these tests.
And they get really mad at me because

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I'd go out party in the night
before the test and not even have bought

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the book, not really study because
I'm like, well, whatever the teacher

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talked about in class is what's going
to be on the test. And I

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know this stuff already, so they
would get mad at me because I would

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actually score higher than they did.
But I think it was just because I

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was following. Wasn't because I was
so much smarter than them. It was

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just because I was following a path
that was really natural to me. And

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it was just part of you know, when I heard something, it's like,

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yeah, I understand that. I
know that, so it was reaffirming

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to hear it again. But I
didn't necessarily have to study to become a

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journalist, I said, a practice. We the aptitude does matter, and

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sometimes it's people can cooked different skill
sets. Definitely, you can cultivate,

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but there's also something if something comes
naturally to you, it's so much more

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easier to hone into it. And
as you mentioned that, you also had

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that trick of the trade that usually
professor's if they're emphasizing the points in a

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class, yes, exactly, they're
sure to include it. And because they

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want to see who's paying attention,
who's not paying attention, especially in college,

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so you know, taking notes and
so you know, I could just

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review all my notes and I could
write really fast, and you know it's

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pretty much write down everything that the
teacher said so that's how I study.

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I just review, you know.
Very cool. So what did you major

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in? So I majored in journalism, and I actually, you know,

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took I finished all of the classes
my junior year, all the required classes,

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so at twenty four hours of pre
electives left my senior year in college.

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And interestingly and if I went to
Southern Methodist University in Dallas, and

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their journalism school is in the Art
school and it still is in the art

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school today, whereas most of the
other journalism programs are in the business schools.

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Mine was in the art school.
So I took twenty four hours of

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art electives to finish my major way
back when in the day. Very interesting,

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that's so like now you graduate out
with the journalism degree, what happens

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next? Well, I went to
work for an agency. Well, I

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did internships during college for like a
PR agency. I worked with lots of

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great experience there, and then I
interviewed and I got a job in an

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ad agency. And it was kind
of crazy, you know, like it

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was so competitive and I had as
much experiences as a college student could have

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working for agencies, but I still
kept hearing, well, we're really looking

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for somebody with more experience, you
know, well, how could I have

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any more experience at that young age
that I was then? So I decided

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to. I decided to. You
used to be able to get a free

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classified ad to advertise that you were
looking for a job in a publication called

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ad Week, and you only had
so many words, and so I just

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said, well, I'm just going
to kind of trick this system. And

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I and I wrote this little pointment
said Buford has experience of many a year,

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he's old, said in his way, he's low in gear. You

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should hire Beverly. She writes more
cleverly. And that got me a ton

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of interviews. So you know,
I'm just like I just had to get

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created with it right and show that
I was created. Yeah, and that

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Brimes definitely catch his attention. And
that's what like, you know, jingled

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it so sorry. Actually, from
my first position in an ad agency where

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I'm had a boss that like left
every day at three o'clock in the afternoon

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to go play tennis. And I
was his thousand dollars a month, just

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out of college higher and I totally
like managed that whole agency lots of money

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for the you know, the clients, media, buying everything that you could

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think of. I did, which
gave me a lot of experience, but

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it was I was just, you
know, I can't believe he entrusted me

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with all of that as young and
ripe as I you know, you know,

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I was just out of college.
But but it was a good experience

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and it actually it actually landed me, which I pursued the job that I

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really wanted at another agency. And
I actually did go to work for an

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agency that with a with a fantastic
mentor. And this was a public relations

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agency and my and my true mentors
named Jerry Todd. He was a big

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PR guy, very well known,
fantastic accounts and he passed away a couple

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of years ago and in his obituary
they said Jerry Todd's agency was compared to

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like the Madman Agency. And I
love that show that that was what I

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had always dreamt of, and I
love that job. I never was paid

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very well, and I didn't like
the confines of having to go to a

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job every day, not for that
kind of money that I was making.

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So I eventually left and started my
own PR agency, worked out of my

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house from way before COVID ever hit. I've always worked out of my house,

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so oh nice. So tell us
a little bit more about your journey

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into the PR agency. Well,
so I I went to I went away

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to Mexico on a vacation, and
I met a guy from Canada, from

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Toronto, and we had a long, diest relationships. So he was the

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one that really encouraged me to you
know, you should be working for yourself.

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You've got a great education, You've
got a lot of a great experience.

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And so when we get serious in
our relationship, after a two year

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long distance relationship, I moved up
to Canada because that's where the opportunity was

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at the time. I've always been
a native Texan and at that time,

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Texas was in one of its down
slumps, especially where I was, because

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of the oil industry issues and stuff, and so Canada was meanwhile booming.

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And so we ended up landing a
fantastic opportunity with the Canadian wine industry,

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which was spent was just great,
you know. But and then we and

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then I got into publishing kind of
by accident. We took on, you

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know, we were really trying to
diversify. Saw all of our eggs worn

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in one basket. Even though the
wine industry kept us pretty busy. We

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just we got hired to do this
home building industry magazine that was part of

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a magazine group, and that led
to helping them establish new editions of that

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magazine and other titles all across the
country. And it also allowed us to

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transfer back to Texas. I had
enough of the cold weather by then,

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so so we moved back to Texas. By that time, we had two

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kids to raise, but we were
able to continue publishing these specialty, niche

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magazines for the building industry, you
know, from our home office. So

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so that was that was nice to
be able to balance that without you know,

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the responsibilities of being a young mother
at the time. So oh absolutely,

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and and that that's amazing. Like
you know, nowadays we talk about

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a lot of work life balance,
and you're talking about several years back when

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it was not the norm. You
wanted to live your dream and you moved

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from one country to another. That's
right, Always talk about living life of

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the rails instead of So going back
to that story that I told about the

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you know about the the plays that
I did early on. You know,

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I remember that this conversation, well
that that's really cute and everything, but

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you know, you really should.
You're smart, you're good at matt you

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should. You know, you should
be a CPA when you grow up.

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And and then you know, so
I didn't. I didn't really know how

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to take that. I was so
young. And then but I remember about

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middle school, you know, I
came home and crying and I tell my

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mother, well, I just want
to be popular. I want people to

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like me. Her answer to that
was, well, I was never popular

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either. I just remember thinking,
that is not the answer that I'm looking

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for. And I decided at that
point, well, I don't have to

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be have to be like my mom
if I don't want to be like my

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mom. And I truly don't have
never had that much in common with her.

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You know, I love her.
She was a great parent in most

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ways, but I was not going
to get my soul nurturing that I needed

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for my life decisions out of her. So I just remember knowing that at

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a young age. And then later
when I met my my uh Canadian husband

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soon to be husband at the time, I introduced him to my parents.

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They liked him and everything, but
they said, well, but you live

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in Texas and he lives in Toronto, and how are you going to work

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that out? You live in two
different countries and stuff and and and so

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yeah, my so my platform is, you know, you can't live your

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life according to what other people how
they tell you it should be, which

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is what I call on track.
Parents will do, you know, try

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to advise you to do, you
know, maybe what worked in their generation.

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My parents hailed from the Golden generation, where all it took to land

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at a job that paid well was
a college degree. Well, now everybody's

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got a college degree and most people
don't even go into the field that they

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study. So they spend something like
one hundred grand on their college education to

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come out with a general studies degree. And I just don't think you should

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go to college if that, if
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so, and especially if you want
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necessary? So things have changed in
this time period where it may not be

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you know, it may not be
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I'm not anti college. It is
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not necessarily for all. So agreed, Yes, they used to have trade

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schools way way back. And it's
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youngsters. That annoying that they're not
just going to know everything that they want

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to do within that time frame because
it's eighteen nineteen years old and you're very

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young, and your brain is not
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So what happens is that you make
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and think about, mm, what
if I had done that, What if

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I had done that? So being
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but it's important to do that.
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no, people don't know where they
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can be hard to make. What
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I think a lot of people just
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safe choice. They just go with
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the time, instead of really searching
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to find out what what is it
that really excites them in life that that's

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their natural drive. So you know, the sad matter of fact is they

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say only only about you know,
less than ten percent of Americans when they

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when they reach like their fifties and
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choice, and and and and also
you know, we all know the stad

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statistics of marriages these days and relationships
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with regret and they and people are
depressed. And only a very small statistic

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can say I feel like I've been
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say, if you do find yourself, you know in that category, first

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of all, you're not alone.
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to reinvent yourself to become who you
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to take you so you're empty and
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is it that I want to be? Because I don't believe that people are

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necessarily defined by the career that they
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you know, when you meet somebody
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first thing they ask you, well, what do you do? And it's

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supposed to be your career. I
try to answer that in a different way.

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Now, you know, my career
and what I do behind a desk

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is not who I am, you
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it also takes that self discovery and
that journey and adventure and life stepping into

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it and figuring out who you are, because if you don't know who you

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are, then it's very hard to
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So as you mentioned that rather than
taking safe choices lean into discomfort,

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how can people know what they want? Well, I think you just have

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to take You just have to trust
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to step off of the track and
go onto the rails and take the

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plunge and have confidence. You know, you can look at if you're if

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you aspire to become an actor,
let's say, like like only a small

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percentage of people realize that dream,
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if that's what you really want.
I just believe if you set your side

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on something and you work hard enough
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You just have to continue, and
you have to and you have to

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accept failure sometimes and get back up
and start over. You know, I

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mentioned that my husband and I work
for the magazine publishing company, and it's

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it's very tempting to like put you
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of our attention and it became like
who we were, and it became the

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sole source of our income, and
we built a magnificent empire of magazines.

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We were number one in the company. But guess what, the private owner

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decided to sell and the people that
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didn't know what they were doing.
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company with the intention of of cheapening
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And we kept warning them, you
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ones that keep the people happy.
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money than their executives, so they
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we were you know, it was
terrible. It was very devastating. So

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we really had to pick pick back
up the pieces. This was right before

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our kids were ready to averse child
was ready to go into college, you

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know, this college education. We
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this house and people that work you
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and all the great lifestyle things that
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cars and things like that, and
and it was like, you know,

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we had to start all over.
So fortunately we were we still had our

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own local magazine that we did and
one hundred percent of our of our sponsors

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that have been with us for ten
plus years resigned their contracts from the old

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company and and resigned with us,
and we started over, launched our own

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magazine, and so, you know, so that was a boost of confidence,

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even though even though they didn't replace
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of if something bad happens to you, you're not alone. You can't sit

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around and feel sorry for yourself,
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my husband and I have always worked

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together, so when this happened,
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of our income. It wasn't like
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was both of us lost our job. So anyway, we we knew,

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we sort of knew it was coming. And I left before he did,

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you know, at my will,
so that I could start creating, recreating

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and starting over. But it was
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like I said, chould yeah,
yeah. Shortly after all of this happened,

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I became really good for with this
this lady. Both of our kids

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graduated high school together and they were
heading off to college, and she knew

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that I had to spend through this
this big loss, but I also had

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more some extra time on my hands. So she said, you know,

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while you're kind of like in you
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you to edit this group of this
little group of short stories that I put

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together, and they're based on a
real woman. And so the story is

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she was the caregiver to both her
father and her grandfather and they both in

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their dying days, told the story
of this lady that had an impact on

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their lives. And her name was
Anna. So she started writing down the

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real stories that they told her,
and then she gave it to me to

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edit them. And I said,
well, in order for this to be

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a book, the book that you
envisioned, it needs a storyline and it

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it needs you know, it needs
to be you know, authentic to the

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time period and it you know,
so we so I created the narrator and

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the whole all the storylines. So
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truth story. It became a historical
fiction novel and then and then we wrote

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a sequel to it. So the
books are called Anna from Atlanta and Anna

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of Iowa. But you know,
again, that was a life changing experience

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and having if I had never been. If I had never had the bad

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luck, the disappointing loss of that
of the Empire magazines, I would have

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never been in the position to move
to that next cool opportunity faith in your

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career. And let's just kind of
remind a little bit back. You mentioned

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that you had started your local magazine, so you had the fourth side to

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do that. As you know,
there are a lot of entrepreneurs who look

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forward to, like you know,
creating their own magazine and inviting the experts

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and to build that credibility. If
someonere looking for that, like you know,

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how would they get started? And
like it takes so much more than

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you know you've can disciplate just the
whole graphic designing and the content, getting

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people to contribute or what like you
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like you know, getting the magazine
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that would be great. Yes,

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And nowadays the magazine business is tough
business because you know, print is going

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by the wayside, and we still
have a we still have a very niche

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magazine, which would be what I
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and a find your niche, which
home building and construction. That also speaks

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to my creative passion. I've been
doing it for a long time. So

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we still continue to publish that magazine, and we we've established various editions of

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it around the state of Texas here. But as far as publishing magazines,

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you know, be specific, be
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of you know, if it's just
general consumer, you're in such a big

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pool. It's it's difficult. And
I don't know that that's trying to start

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that kind of a magazine, particularly
in this age of media, would be

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would would be advisable. But the
niche magazine, uh uh. Still,

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you know still exists and and and
you have you just have to deliver more

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than the print product now, you
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put it up online. You know, have other more information available through blogging

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and things like that. So but
we still serve. We have education classes,

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we report and recap all the housing
headlines, and and our builder audience

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loves that. So they read it
religiously, whether they're reading now nowadays online

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or whether they're still reading their print
version of the publication. They really appreciate

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what we do for you know,
to keep them informed. No, definitely,

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and that makes sense, so that
having the niche magazine because then people

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that's what they're looking for. And
so many times what happens is the niche

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magazine can be something, especially for
the brick and mortar businesses can be really

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good and if they have like you
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it's a quarterly magazine, and if
they're keeping it in their store, especially

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like you mentioned the realtor agencies,
you know, people are going into it

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or financial planners and it's sitting on
that coffee table while people are waiting in

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the waiting room because a lot of
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connect with the real estate agent,
especially if you're going and seeing the home.

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link you know, Sony New Things, and ours is so specific that it's

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really just for the builders people like
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developers. It's really just for them. But obviously there's an interest from all

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the people. Home building industry is
like one of the largest industries in our

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country, one of the biggest contributors
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with how good the economy is doing
has to do with housing. So there's

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a ton of businesses that are related
to that, but our true audience is

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those builders, and then our sponsors
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support them with products or services.
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works and and you know, making
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to our success and that in that
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definitely makes sense. So you have
mentioned sponsors a few times, so to

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somebody has started their magazine in a
niche that they're very valiable of, they've

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got contexts. So what's a good
way of bringing in sponsors bringing in sponsors,

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of the one of the real benefits

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is you know, like networking,
going to events and whatever. If you're

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if you're in a niche publication,
for example, they probably have a professional

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associations for a local chapter and volunteering. They're showing people that you care about

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their industry, that it's you're not
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You know, you're you really care
about enough about their industry you chose

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it, chose to be there and
and being willing to become part of that

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community and its service is the key
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years until last December, I did
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were like for really high end neighborhoods
in Dallas where you know, the average

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house in one of the neighborhoods I
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of like fourteen hundred homes. I
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I dealt with a really really really
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I could get in their circle was
to become to go to their charity events,

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to report on their charity events,
to earn their trust, and then

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they would, you know, they
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referrals or I would learn like who
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like because in that in that particular
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most the highest in the very best
service. So I met a lot of

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very interesting business owners and I would
go out and talk to them, you

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know, and get you know,
asked for referrals to people of their caliber

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in another category that I was looking
for. So it's all really asking for

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referrals and and becoming living part of
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You know, whether you're talking about
builders or you're talking about high and consumers,

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you know, just become involved in
their world and that's where you make

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the contacts. Yeah, and it's
hanging out in the world of your niche,

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whether it's associations or clients or whoever
your audiences, your reader is And

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when you're hanging out there, you
understand, like you know what they need.

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the referral sources, that who are

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the vendors. So basically you're figuring
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can be. That definitely makes sense. So going back to you or the

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journey, you mentioned that you wrote
to books, so like, are you

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still continuing in the publishing field or
are you just writing? It's one of

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the reasons that I that I decided
to give up the neighborhood magazines that I

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was doing here in Dalla. Well, first of all, it was becoming

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more corporate and I've already been down
that path with the other experience with with

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magazine publishing and I and I resist
being part of a corporate structure. That's

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just me, you know, that's
part of why out of my life off

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the rails, you know, so
so, but I really did, you

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know, I really do love the
audience and the people that I met in

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the experience. So so now on
my website, the Savvy List, I

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try to retain that audience by posting
about about all the social events, the

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charity, the philanthropy, and all
the very best of the best is far

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you travel, wine, food,
all of that stuff. You know,

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I'm doing online now to try to
retain and build that audience even bigger.

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So and also on the savvy List, I promote the books the Ana from

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Atlanta series, and and my husband
and I together are working on a news

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series in our favorite destination, our
favorite destination which is Tuloom in Mexico.

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It's a mystical you know, just
the vibe there just is it just speaks

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to us. And so we're working
on as what we hope to be a

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screenplay. And again, you know, as we begin to try to it's

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all about sponsorship, you know.
To do what you want to do,

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you've got to gain the support.
And so as we as we begin to

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work on that, we volunteered for
the Dallas International Film Festival where you can

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meet other filmmakers, you can meet
producers. You know, the more you

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can get involved with that industry.
We touched space with a film studio in

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pli Adel Carmen, which we hope
to get involved. You know, when

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we get that, when we attract
the sponsors for for this film, you

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know, we hope to get them
involved. And then the other part of

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you know, things sort of start
to blend together, and you've always got

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to be thinking, you know,
how could I how could I use this

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experience to gain that experience. So
so we decided to invest in in a

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development in Toloom in twenty twenty before
they ever broke ground, and it'll be

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finished. This should be finished like
this coming January, our condo in Tuloom,

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and so so we envision. My
husband has a real estate license he

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uses, you know, he's become
involved in building some houses himself, and

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then as a realtor, he can
refer people to this developer in Tuloom and

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they pay real estate commission to American
realtors who refer. So so he sold

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a few other units just from us
promoting it. And how much we love

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this destination and what a great opportunity
We think it polls for you know,

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to be able to have a vacation
home and then rent it out when you're

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not there. It's kind of an
ideal situation. And there's a lot of

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Americans doing that down there, so
we promote that as well. But you

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know, we hope to get that
developer involved as one of our sponsors for

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the film and actually films some of
the pieces, you know, at some

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of his developments, you know,
so you can see how he could benefit

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from that. You know, so
all fun, you know, it all

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sort of goes together, it sure, So tell us more about your upcoming

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film in the series. Okay,
it's well, it's going to be.

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You know, I grew in the
process of writing the Anna series, I

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grew to love historical fiction. And
there's a lot of mysticism and historical fictions

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as being the last Mayan civilization and
they have the Toloom ruins there and stuff

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and and so it's it's very on
some of that and and I don't want

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to give away the secrets, but
there are some ancient mind and the sindents

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that are still alive and well and
are in our series. So anyway,

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there's you know, and they interact
with modern day people, and they have

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a lot of things, you know, the ancient cultures and in the way

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that people used to live have a
lot have a lot of lessons to teach

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us. And I know even from
you know, my husband is of Greek

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descent. He reads and writes Greeks
still, and his parents or first generation,

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they both grew up in Greece,
and so that culture again, and

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there's a lot that we can learn
from these ancient cultures. We've become so

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on track without you know, we're
defined by our jobs and we work all

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the time, and we don't take
time to have fun. You know,

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you go back to Greece and people
are laughing and dancing and interacting and socializing

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just like they did you know,
many years ago. They haven't forgotten how

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to do that. I think here, you know, we go to work,

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we come home, we go inside
our nice houses, and we just

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shut ourselves in and we don't have
a lot of social interaction outside of work.

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And that's that's not the way.
That's not the way to live a

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healthy life. And that's when you
know, you get done and and then

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you have regret, you know,
because you finish your work, you finish

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all your you know, your friends
are gone. If that's all you've ever

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put the emphasis on, is your
work, all your network of people that

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support you. After you retire,
you've got nobody. You've got to You've

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got to cultivate other relationships and other
friends and and some other interests outside of

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work. And certainly you have to
cultivate, you know, just as much

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as I believe in in in finding
the career that's perfect for you. Also,

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you know, when the time comes
to choose who you want to marry,

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don't make the safe choice. Don't
choose the one that mommy and Daddy

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think it's perfect for you. Make
your own choice, and and you'll know

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when you fall in love that you
fall in love. You know, my

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You know, my parents did not
have a good relationship, and I was

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determined to do better. They decided
to stay married and stick it out.

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But I disagree with that. I
don't. I don't agree with that.

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You know, well, congratulations on
all your successes and living your life.

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And I do think it's not luck. I think it's I think it's just,

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you know, it's because of intentional
choices and because I was a bit

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off the rails and rebellious and questioning
everything. You know, when I was

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a kid, I think, you
know, I feel fortunate. You know,

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my my brother, you know,
he followed you know, you know,

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he sought approval from other people and
followed, you know, what other

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people told them to do, and
did not lead a happy life. He

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passed away a couple of years ago, and I just wish that, you

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know, he could have made better
choices. I'm so sorry for your loss.

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And Beverly, if our audience wants
to reach out to you, where

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can they connect with you? Look
look me up at at the savvy list

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dot com. That's savvy the savvy
list dot com and and from there you

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can you can contact us through there, and you can also find if you

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dig around a little bit on the
website, you can you can find all

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the you know, different things that
I've mentioned, from the home building to

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the NS series to the Tuloom series, all of that is on there.

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We also do automotive journalism, which
I didn't mention, but all of our

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automotive stories and stuff are on there, and you can the best thing to

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do would be to subscribe to our
the Savvy List newsletter and and that way,

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you know, you'll get notices and
kind of a recap of what's going

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on on the savvy List, and
even click on the links and look at

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what you're interested in. We're also
launching a brand new podcast this week,

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actually it launches. It's called People
Pursuing Passions and they're from the website.

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You'll be able to define that links
to that as well and subscribe there if

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you're interested. Well, thank you
Beverly for joining us. Absolutely, thank

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you audience for joining us and being
part of our family, because without you,

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the show would not be possible.
And thank you on for all the

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technical support. Until next time,
be well and take care of Thank you

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for being part of Beyond Confidence.
With your host Via Park, we hope

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you have learned more about how to
start living the life you want. Each

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week on Beyond Confidence, you hear
stories of real people who've experienced growth by

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overcoming their fears and building meaningful relationship
up. During Beyond Confidence, Divya Park

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shares what happened to her when she
stepped out of her comfort zone to work

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directly with people across the globe.
She not only coaches people how to form

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heart connections, but also transform relationships
to mutually beneficial partnerships as they strive to

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live the life they want. If
you are ready to live the life you

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want and leverage your strengths, learn
more at www dot dvapark dot com and

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you can connect with Diva at contact
at divyapark dot com. We look forward

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to you joining us next week