Sept. 16, 2023

How to turn get speaking engagements and turn them into clients

How to turn get speaking engagements and turn them into clients

Join Divya Parekh and Jevon Wooden to learn how to land a speaking engagement and turn it into a lucrative opportunity? If the answer is yes, then this episode is tailor-made for you! We're pulling back the curtain on the world of public speaking,...

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Join Divya Parekh and Jevon Wooden to learn how to land a speaking engagement and turn it into a lucrative opportunity? If the answer is yes, then this episode is tailor-made for you! We're pulling back the curtain on the world of public speaking, revealing the secrets that can transform a simple talk into a profitable venture.

From crafting the perfect pitch to negotiating your fees, we've got you covered in this comprehensive guide.

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host give you a park. Good
morning, listeners, It's Tuesday morning and

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I'm with you, so of course
it's a wonderful day today because I get

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to be with you. So for
all of you who have got our books

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Expert to Influencer, The Entrepreneur's Gotten
and any of the others, and I

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recommend those two because those will change
your lives. And surprisingly, just a

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few days back, one of my
friends called me and told me that my

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Expert to Influencer was still number one
even after four years. And believe it

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or not, the Entrepreneur's Gotten it
was published in twenty seventeen, and yesterday

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one of my team membership that it
was a number one in one of the

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other countries, like I think it
was in Canada. So it's like,

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Wow, you put a piece of
your heart and soul out there and if

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it stands the test of time,
nothing like it. And the best part

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I want to tell you is that
my intention over here is to take partial

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portion of our profits and help entrepreneurs
all across the globe, and we continue

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doing that, and we appreciate you
supporting us in helping other entrepreneurs. And

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I invite you and encourage you and
challenge you to find that one hour of

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your time in your life so that
you can help spread the kindness anywhere everywhere.

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All Right, so let's bring our
guests welcome to one Hey, thank

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you so much of you. How
are you good? How are you doing

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doing fantastic? Feeling good, feeling
great. I love that feeling good,

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feeling great. So so tell us, do you recall a moment from your

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childhood where there was any moment or
a person or a situation that still stands

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out fresh today as if it was
yesterday. Yeah, I mean I have

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a ton of those, Divya,
But what really comes up for me right

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now is really the moment I decided. I decided that I wanted to make

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an impact in this world. And
that moment actually came from a moment of

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negativity. I was actually in a
jail cell. I know a lot of

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people like what, Yes, I
was sitting in a jail cell and I

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was facing prison time seven years to
be exact, and I had this moment

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where I said, you know what, I know this life isn't for me.

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I know that there is more because
I had this limiting belief that money

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equated to value, so I felt
like I was valued less because my family

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didn't have money. So fast forward, I actually didn't have to do that

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time and I was given a second
chance. I'll bless you, thank you,

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Yeah, no problem, And I
was given a second chance. And

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that moment stays with me to this
day. It kind of guides everything that

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I do. How can I make
an impact? And one of my causes

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is to help other at risk youth
or at hope youth to do the same

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to avoid having to face that time
or having to be in those situations to

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realize that they are valued. HM. So from may ask you how old

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were you at that time? I
was seventeen hmm, very young. And

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so as you got out of that
situation, what did you do next?

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What I did next was I said
I'm going to do everything I can to

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be on the straight and narrow.
So I attempted college, couldn't afford it,

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had go back home. I ended
up working two full time jobs for

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a while, and one of those
full time jobs led to me going too

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the military. One of the people
I was working with was actually a recruiter

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and he was just moonlighting as a
worker at the hospital I was at.

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So I went down to the recruiting
station I was I think I was about

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twenty two twenty one at this time, and I just said, Yo,

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sign me up whatever you got.
And it turns out that I was really

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intelligent, so I could have a
pick up a litter of whatever job I

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did. Because I did well in
the aptitude test I saw, I went

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into it and that's how I got
my career in it that I had followed

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for a while before. Coaching and
consulting m fantastic And so many times there's

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so many people who are, like
you know, out of school and may

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not have money for college or even
like may not even know where to go.

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So this is such a good way, you know, and thank you

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for your services, not only you
are serving your country, because all the

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functions are important for are heroes and
heroes to continue to doing their work.

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And it's such a good way of
finding your feet and getting your feet bet

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So what was your experience like in
the military. My experience, it was

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an amazing experience, you know,
when you joined the military, and I'm

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sure many of my colleagues will agree, you meet people that you would never

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have otherwise met when you come from
diverse backgrounds, diverse experiences, and that

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really plays into the fact that different
synapses connecting for me because I was listening

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to all these diverse thought processes and
challenge on the daily to connect with people

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I wouldn't have otherwise connected with if
I stayed in my little region in Rochester,

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New York. So I had a
great experience. It really pushed boundaries

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for me and it opened me up
to becoming the man that you see today.

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I was able to learn more about
leadership. I learned about camaraderie and

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hour of collaboration. I learned problem
solving in dire situations. I learned how

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to figure out what options were there
were when sometimes it didn't look like there

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were options there. So there was
so many lessons learned from the military that

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I still care with me today.
Well, that's amazing. And can you

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tell because whenever we talk about our
folks, whether you know, in any

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of the discipline unit they're in,
whether it's military, whether it's a navy

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or air force, what is one
of the things that binds people together.

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Especially, let's just kind of stick
to the military, since you don't have

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the experience of the other two.
What was one thing that you know as

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you were coming across those diverse thoughts, was there, like, you know,

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one or two things common that bound
them together. Yeah? Absolutely,

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in the Army and in the other
I've starved with the other units and joint

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team operations, right, and the
Air Force and the Navy, the Marines.

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Right, the one or two things
that binds us, I'll go too.

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There's a lot. One of the
things is a common mission, right,

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we all we all want to get
that mission done. Whatever that could

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be. Could be really winning the
hearts and minds of the country we're in.

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It could be establishing better healthcare for
our units or our fellow comrades.

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It could be supporting another country and
helping to their economics. Right, So,

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whatever that mission is, that one
thing binds us together. No matter

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what our differences were, we came
together right with one goal in mind,

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and that allowed us to perform at
a level of excellence that you know,

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we probably wouldn't have if we weren't
in that mindset to say, you know,

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let's come together over this common theme. The second thing that bound us

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together was the fact that we had
the same values. Right now, values

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in this sense aren't necessarily individual values
because we did have different individuals. But

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if you look at it from the
realm of a company, which the military,

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the government really is to companies an
organization, right, if you look

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at it from that perspective, we
were given a value set and that value

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set guided our decision making and it
guided how we respond and we rereact.

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So with those two things in mind, a common mission and a common value

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set, we're able to perform at
a level. We're able to communicate and

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collaborate and not perform any silo types
of arenas, and we're able to get

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the mission done. MM. That
is so powerful and that I do want

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to invite their audience because think about
it, well, regardless whether let's say,

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if you're in the corporate world or
whether you're an entrepreneur, we are

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all bound by the same mission.
Is that like, how can be better

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other people's lives? How can we
help others? So if we could bring

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that in our lives, and whether
it's in the form of kindness or whether

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it's in the form of any other
way think about it, how we could

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help other people and help the whole
humanity overall. So I love that.

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I love that, and thank you
for sharing that. So now you want

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to share with us when how long
did you stay with military and when did

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you get out? Yeah? I
was in the military for twelve years.

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I got out November of twenty nineteen. Mm. And as you will finish

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your services with the military, like
you know, what was the next step

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in your life? Yeah? So
I actually was a reservist, which was

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interesting, right, So I had
to be the duality of living on the

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civilian side and being in the military, which kind of made things difficult a

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little bit because you know, when
you're in either or you know what to

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expect. You have this this kind
of concept of stability in a sense.

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But as a reservist, I was
doing both. I would have a job

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and then I would have to do
my service. They say two weekends a

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month and one week out the year, but that's it's not true. You

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know, you got all these trainings
and all these things you have to do,

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so I would. I just was
in the mindset that one I had

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to manage my time wisely, right, So whatever I needed to do.

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I needed to plant it. And
then the other thing was, you know,

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as I was going through the military, as I was concluding my career,

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I had to ask myself constantly what
should I be doing next? How

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can I make it to a level
or not just doing things in hoping for

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the best where I'm intentioned about a
contentional about the way I'm spending my time.

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Now. I mentioned earlier that I
had joined the military as an IT

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specialist. Now we know it is
everything we see it and everything we do

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right, So and that's why I
did that career. I didn't want to

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do infantry or something like that where
I was kind of confined. So what

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I did was, I said,
how can I leverage my skills to not

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just use these for someone else,
whether that be the government or another company,

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but how can I take it to
the next level where I can implement

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this and make my own path.
That's where my company came from. So

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I started. I found coaching,
and I tied that with my all of

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my experiences that I've had through the
military and my personal life, and I

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identified Bright my consulting group. So
it's really something that we all can do.

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We all can some of us we
feel like we have to kind of

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shut down a part of our life, like that has nothing to do with

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anything but all of what we're doing
throughout life, throughout our careers, our

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businesses, it is giving us transferable
skills and transferable experiences. So that's really

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one of the things that I would
love to share with your audiences. Make

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sure you're looking at things right down, how those experiences can tie into the

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next step of your life, the
next phase, right down, how you

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can share those to help some other
people. There's a lot of ways that

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we can use all this stuff,
and that's what I did, absolutely and

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congratulations on taking what you had and
transforming into the next step where you want

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it to be. So do you
want You and I have talked before and

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you have shared that you know,
you do a lot of speaking engagements,

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and a lot of our listeners,
especially leaders, entrepreneurs, coaches, consultants,

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and it could be professionals, it
could be anyone. Like you know,

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their people are usually afraid of public
speaking, and yet public speaking is

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such an important thing to love that
in your lives, and like you know,

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people don't speak up in meetings and
people may be afraid of getting on

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podcasts or you know, going and
doing that face spook are LinkedIn live or

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going ahead and having videos on their
website. I mean that speaking comes in

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so many different areas, So tell
us, like, you know, for

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those people who are experiencing that fear, how can they overcome that fear and

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move beyond that? Absolutely? First, I always tell people to identify why,

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what is the goal? What is
the purpose of the speaking? Right?

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So you mentioned stages and all these
different aspects of why we need to

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be powerful or impactful speakers. That's
a goal, right. So conveying your

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message, conveying your thoughts in a
way that is understandable, relatable and impactful

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is important in all aspects of life, whether you're talking to your spouse,

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a friend, a colleague. We
need this skill. This is one of

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the life skills that are is non
negotiable. So I always challenge people when

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they say I fear public speaking,
I asked them, what about it do

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you fear? First? Once you
identify what about it fear, and now

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we can play the game. Now
we know what we need to attack.

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that fear. So if I say
I fear public speaking because I don't want

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to stand up in front of people
and freeze, how can how can we

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talk? I will? Can we
challenge that? Right? And one of

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the things is to start doing it
on smaller scales. You sometimes like,

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like you said, you just gotta
just do it right, So maybe instead

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of getting into an audience of one
hundred a thousand people and get in front

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of this room, maybe you start
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Maybe you practice a little bit,
maybe actually write down what you're going

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to say until you get to the
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bit. So just take those steps. There's things like toast masters where they

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will challenge you to just randomly come
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you have no idea where it came
from. Sometimes, so there's groups,

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there's support, there's the piece of
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fear, and then there's a part
of just saying, you know what I'm

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gonna do it. I'm gonna start
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why it's important for me, and
then I'm going to become incrementally better at

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it and then another thing that helps
me is having a ritual before you do

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your speaking engagement. I have a
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the stage and just run up there
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I actually take some time for me
that the day of Right before that speaking

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engagements, I'm walking through it in
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way. We all we've heard it
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you've done it a million times before. So I like to visualize myself going

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through that, like to visualize the
audience being impacted. And then I like

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to say some words of affirmations to
myself right before the stage. So when

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I get up there, I'm in
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anything that's happening in my life.
I'm not thinking about anything's happening other than

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what's about to transpire on that stage. So oftentimes it's really getting into that

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space, putting yourself into this state
of acceptance, this state of openness,

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right where you're saying, hey,
I'm open to the experience that the speaking

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engagement is going to provide with To
me, it's not about perfection, it's

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not about being a robot. It's
about being human, and it's about conveying

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whatever that message is. You're there
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that. We have to we have
to realize that we're making things bigger than

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what they need to be. And
then I'll also tell people that when you

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get these speaking engagements, when you're
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front of the boardroom, whatever it
is, see if you can identify some

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of your tendencies. A lot of
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Oh I'm kind of awkward, I
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or whatever it is. See if
you can identify some of those tendencies.

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Record yourself a little bit before you
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if I know I say or awe
or right or whatever I'm saying, or

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if I know my hands are doing
all of this stuff, see if you

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can kind of rein it in and
become intentional. Slow yourself down a bit.

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someone in the audience that you can
look at that you know you have their

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undivided attention, and you know that
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saying and lean on them. That's
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We don't think we have support when
we're up there, but like it's a

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one man game, you have support. Find it. Find it in the

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audience, in a room of five, in a room of five thousand,

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find that those people that you can
tie into and really resenting yourself as you

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go. And then another point is
if you lose your place. A lot

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of times that happens when you try
to memorize something. I challenge people not

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to memorize your whole speech. That's
not what we're looking to do. We're

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looking to memorize the points that we
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But if you try to memorize the
speech and you get up there and

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you forget it, you're going to
be completely thrown off. I've seen it

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happened Dibia, and it's not pretty. It's not a good thing, right,

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So instead of working to memorize and
say things verbatim, look to kind

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of idea and look to guide yourself
with certain key points that you want to

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make throughout that speech, and then
feel free to flow. Feel free to

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flow as you go. If you
miss the point, see if you can

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come back and bring it later.
If not, it's okay. Allow yourself

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to be human, allow yourself to
be fluid. Some very very powerful nuggets.

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practice, practice, practice, because

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sometimes you just gotta put yourself out
there and you are showing up for yourself.

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Because here's the thing, the way
our brains love to do it.

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Like you know, you take a
tiny step and you are able to do

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it, You'll build that confidence you
take another steps. It's just about taking

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those baby steps, as you mentioned. And one of the things you also

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talked about recording yourself. You can
have that computer, stand up and just

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record yourself and see, as you
mentioned, Juan, is that where those

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ums and als, where are those
tendencies coming up? And one of the

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things you can do is have a
index card where you just have those four

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or five bullet points. And so
many times I've found that, like you

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know, I've been on stages as
well, and I do not memorize,

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as you mentioned, because memorizing.
If I memorize, then I'll definitely lose

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my place. So having just three
or four points if you don't remember,

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just knowing that like okay, you
know today I'm going to be speaking about

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this. These are the three key
points that I'm going to talk about with

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stories. And when you relace it
with stories, you know if they're so

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much easier to tell. So we
talked about the fear John here with us.

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What makes a good speech, like, do you have a framework that

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you use or just any tips around
how do you engage those people? Because

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it's a one man dialogue. I
mean, of course sometimes you can interspose

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it with pulling people in, but
any tips you have that would be great.

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Absolutely. The first is what I
like, I said, the goal,

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right, That's what I started with
on everything. The goal like who's

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my audience? Why am I there? To make sure my speech aligns within

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reson resonates with them. The second
thing is forging an emotional connection. You

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mentioned stories. Stories are a great
way to forge that connection and get them

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to feel like even if they weren't
exactly in the same situation of that story,

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they need to be to picture themselves
in a similar thing where you're getting

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the thing Okay, this aligns with
me. This, Okay, I can

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see how I can apply what's being
said here or if I'm getting this feeling,

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I'm getting excited, I'm getting happy
or I'm getting sad, right,

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stories, because without that it's really hard

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people. And I'll bring this point
Mia Ageley once said, people will forget

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what you said, people will forget
what you did, but they will never

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forget how you made them feel.
So we don't go out there to give

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a bunch of points and then get
off the stage and that's it. You

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have to have support for those points
so people can remember, you know,

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how that point made them feel.
Because you're not going to remember everything you

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said. Let's just get that out
the way. That's not why you're there.

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You're just there to impact, engage
and transform whatever whatever your speaking style

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is. Right. The third point
is you want to make sure that when

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you're up there, you're not so
concerned with the outcomes. And I'll tell

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you why. When you're concerned with
getting a standing, innovation and you know

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all of these things, you start
to get out of being yourself. And

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it's very important that when you're speaking, you bring the uniqueness, which is

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you or else you're gonna be just
like everyone else. And that's why it's

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important to find your style and to
find what type of speaker you want to

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be. You know, you could
be a motivational speaker, get up there

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and ride, ride and get everyone
hyped up. You could be an informational

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speaker where you're actually given insightful knowledge. You can be a transformational speaker where

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you're looking to get someone from point
A to point B. There's there's a

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number of ways you can be up
there, So identify your youth, your

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uniqueness, and how you're going to
bring your spin and your take on everything.

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you also kind of dis that audience
right, So you want to make sure

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you're hooking in them early. That
could be with a powerful question. That

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could be what a statistic, could
be with a joke, could be with

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a story. It could be you
saying, Okay, I know i'm up

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here, but let me tell you
why we're on the same plane while I'm

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just like you right. There's a
number of ways where you want to do

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that, but you have to do
it earlier. It's really hard to get

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the audience back if you don't bring
them in because that's what they're looking for,

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Like, let me let me listen. You know, when you first

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come on that stage, you're like, all right, what do you got,

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What do you got for me?
They're gonna sit up in that chair

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and they're going to listen to that
first two to five minutes. Then two

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to five minutes you made their eyes
glaze over. It's gonna be hard to

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get them off checking their phones or
talking to their neighbors. So you want

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to make sure that you're getting them
in within that first two to five minutes.

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That's all you got attention, and
it's shorter now, but we'll give

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you that right. The fifth thing
is is make sure that you're taking action.

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You're giving them actionable tips. Make
sure that you're not just up there

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and then you leave them hanging.
Always have a call to action. Always

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have a call to action. Don't
get up there and say, oh,

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thanks for having me guys, I'll
see you later. No, you know

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that call to action. And this
goes into the point of knowing if you

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if you're up there to sell something, knowing if you're up there to have

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them connect with you, knowing if
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sort of action outside of the speech. All right, So whatever that is,

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that call to action needs to align
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if I have a talk and I
have a speaking engagement and they say no,

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selling, none, none of that, you can't push from stage.

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I may say, hey, here's
my you know, I would love to

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connect with you on LinkedIn. Go
ahead and scan this QR code. Shoot

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me a message on why and apologies, my dog is bark into something.

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Shoot me a message on why my
speech wasn't before you give me a nugget

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on one thing that stood out for
you. So there's a number of this

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ways you can do that cart of
action. It's really up to you and

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how it aligns with what your goal
was for that talk. Yeah, now

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that's definitely very very powerful, and
it brings us back to that circle why

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are you there and what is the
purpose? And again it brings us back

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to the beginning creating that impact on
people because you're not there just for yourself.

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You're not just there for everyone.
Think about when you're speaking to just

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that one person, even if you
make a difference to one person, it's

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going to be phenomenal. And you
were talking about gorging that emotional connection.

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Nothing more powerful than storytelling where you
share what you've gone through, and especially

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of speaker you are. As you mentioned,

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Joan, so very important to be
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you mentioned that everybody's at the same
level, everybody's at the same playing field.

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Just because you're up on the stage
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So connecting with them very powerful.
So now, okay, if we

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have talked about that a bit,
now people may say, all right,

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I've got I've overcome my fear,
I've got my speech. I'm have to

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saying how can they go and find
speaking engagements? Yeah, there are a

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number of ways. One is start
with your network. If people know that

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you're speaking, and you know exactly
who you're looking to speak with, that's

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that's an important point. Part is
identifying who you want to speak to.

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Is it associations, is it government
organizations, corporations, is it schools,

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colleges, high schools. Identify who
you want to speak to. Who's your

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audience, Why do you want to
speak to them? What stories are you

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looking to tell them? What what
what is the outcome of you speaking to

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them? Then once you fill that
out and you get your message, your

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skill, you know you're quick.
Hey, I like to speak to X

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because this is the transformation I want
to give them. Start telling people.

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I will post it on social media. I'm telling my friends my network and

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say, hey, if you if
you have anyone, any schools, or

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any associations, whatever your target audiences, you know, anyone who can use

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it, I would love for you
to connect with on LinkedIn. This is

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my bread and butter here on LinkedIn. What I like to do is with

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my network. I'll look at their
second level of connections and if I see

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someone in that second level of connections
that fits my target audience. Maybe,

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for instance, I like to speak
to associations. Maybe they're at an association

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that I want to speak to,
I'll let them them like, hey,

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do you mind I notice you're connected
with these part people. Do you mind

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connecting with them? And you know, setting up conversation. Here's a speed

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what they can say to make that connection.

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Because some people are like, what
do you want me to say?

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I'll tell them why the connection is
important, how I can benefit them.

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Because a network is invaluable to everyone. We don't want to just make the

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introduction and then you ruin that connection
for them, right, so you got

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to make sure that you're getting value
for both people. Right, I'm gonna

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make you look good and I'm gonna
make them look good. I'm going to

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provide value to them. So once
they make those connections for you, now

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you want to set up a call. You're not selling through a message.

394
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Don't do that. You're not selling
anything that's important to make that note.

395
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Not looking to sell, You're looking
to have a conversation because you want to

396
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get on that phone and you want
to ask him. So, hey,

397
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I saw you had a conference coming
up in November. Whatever it is.

398
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I saw you had this conference coming
up, and what you're looking for actually

399
00:29:44.039 --> 00:29:47.799
aligns with something a talk that I
gave on X. Right, So you

400
00:29:47.839 --> 00:29:51.200
really want to have all that information
ready, and you want to be willing

401
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to ask a bunch of questions so
you can see how it ties together.

402
00:29:55.160 --> 00:29:57.640
Maybe they're not the one and maybe
they're not the decision making and you can

403
00:29:57.680 --> 00:30:02.759
say, hey, you know you
happen to know who's the person booking the

404
00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:07.720
speakers for that event. Would you
happen to know what they may be you

405
00:30:07.759 --> 00:30:11.200
know, looking for and how I
can connect with them, etc. Just

406
00:30:11.240 --> 00:30:15.319
have your questions ready again, you
don't have to memorize everything, but have

407
00:30:15.359 --> 00:30:18.799
some questions ready for them. So
it's a conversation that is a great use

408
00:30:18.799 --> 00:30:23.960
of both of your times. The
second way that you can identify speaking engagements

409
00:30:25.880 --> 00:30:30.240
it's Google. You can use Google. So, I mean, we all

410
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know that Google is powerful, but
it's really powerful for speakers as well.

411
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So if I know I want to
speak at a leadership conference, for instance,

412
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I may say leadership conferences in Houston, Texas call for speakers, and

413
00:30:45.039 --> 00:30:48.240
a bunch of conferences are going to
pop up. Maybe I don't feel ready

414
00:30:48.240 --> 00:30:49.720
for those first five that pop up. Maybe they're like, Okay, I'm

415
00:30:49.759 --> 00:30:53.039
not ready for that that's five thousand
people. But I would I would try.

416
00:30:53.119 --> 00:30:56.160
I mean, I'm a person that
I'm I don't mind rejection or I

417
00:30:56.160 --> 00:31:00.839
don't mind someone not responding to me
at all, so I'll go for those.

418
00:31:00.880 --> 00:31:03.599
But you don't have to. Maybe
you go down to the bottom of

419
00:31:03.640 --> 00:31:07.759
that and look at those similar results
conferences and you start applying for those.

420
00:31:08.359 --> 00:31:11.519
That's another way, you know,
just do call for speakers as you first

421
00:31:11.599 --> 00:31:15.799
getting started, just to warm up, and it's a great way to identify

422
00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:19.720
different connections as well. And then
if you don't get those, if you

423
00:31:19.759 --> 00:31:23.279
get a message saying, hey,
we had a lot of applications and you

424
00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:26.680
know we didn't select yours, that's
okay. Do not let that deter you.

425
00:31:27.200 --> 00:31:32.359
See if you can get feedback from
that event organizer respond back to that

426
00:31:32.400 --> 00:31:34.640
and say, oh, thank you
for letting me know. Can you tell

427
00:31:34.640 --> 00:31:41.680
me why why my submission wasn't selected
at this time? Sometimes they'll respond and

428
00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:45.400
say, yes, we you know, we love the title, but the

429
00:31:45.440 --> 00:31:48.200
abstract didn't. It didn't land for
us, whatever, So just see how

430
00:31:48.279 --> 00:31:53.039
much feedback you can get. The
third way that you can get speaking engagements

431
00:31:53.200 --> 00:31:59.279
is from other speaking engagements. So
if I'm I speak a lot to a

432
00:31:59.279 --> 00:32:00.880
lot of leaders and business owners,
right, so I may go to like

433
00:32:00.920 --> 00:32:07.240
a chamber of commerce or something like
that in association and just speak for free,

434
00:32:07.680 --> 00:32:09.599
and then someone in the audience may
say, hey, that was great.

435
00:32:09.880 --> 00:32:14.720
Do you mind if we set up
a call so you speak to my

436
00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:17.920
company or my team. That's a
great way to do it. And that's

437
00:32:17.960 --> 00:32:22.000
why I said you always want to
have a call to action because you never

438
00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:25.759
want to make it hard for people
to know what's next. A confused mind

439
00:32:25.960 --> 00:32:30.799
is one that will not take action. So you want to make sure people

440
00:32:30.200 --> 00:32:36.000
are seeing you all the time.
The fourth way and let me know if

441
00:32:36.000 --> 00:32:40.759
you want me to stop give you
the fourth way is the fourth way is

442
00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:46.920
to leverage your platforms. Right,
we talk about value based content and content

443
00:32:47.039 --> 00:32:52.359
marketing and all those things. That
is great, but it's only great if

444
00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:54.720
you get it in front of the
people you want to get in in front

445
00:32:54.759 --> 00:33:00.480
of. So, for instance,
I said my platform is LinkedIn. I'll

446
00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:06.960
write a post that I know is
valuable to my target audience. But I'll

447
00:33:06.960 --> 00:33:09.160
take it a step further. Not
only will I share it to certain groups

448
00:33:09.160 --> 00:33:14.599
who may have my target audience in
there on LinkedIn, I will also send

449
00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:17.200
it to people that may be interested
in it. So I may message them

450
00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:21.119
like, hey, you know I
just wrote this. I saw that you.

451
00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:23.400
I saw you that you were looking
for a marketer on your team.

452
00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:27.799
Here's a post that I've just written
that you may find interesting. Whatever it

453
00:33:27.839 --> 00:33:30.319
is, see if you can tie
it into their needs. See if you

454
00:33:30.319 --> 00:33:35.960
can tie it into adding value for
that target person. And those are some

455
00:33:36.000 --> 00:33:40.519
of the ways that I like to
leverage to find my speaking engagements. Well,

456
00:33:40.599 --> 00:33:45.359
those are a lot of powerful nuggets. So thank you Joan. Now

457
00:33:45.480 --> 00:33:50.799
you mentioned about going to Chamber of
Commerce and there are a lot of entrepreneurs

458
00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:54.680
there that public speaking can help them
grow their business. So how can they

459
00:33:54.720 --> 00:33:59.960
make the connections? Especially you know, if it is you're going to speak

460
00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:04.400
for free, then first of all, of how do you make those connections?

461
00:34:04.599 --> 00:34:06.839
Let's talk about that, and then
we'll come to the second piece.

462
00:34:07.680 --> 00:34:09.599
Sure, well, first of all, to make connections, this is a

463
00:34:09.679 --> 00:34:14.760
relationship, you know, business.
Let me put it like this business is

464
00:34:14.760 --> 00:34:17.920
not transactional. It's relation though,
and we just have to remember that that

465
00:34:19.079 --> 00:34:22.239
instead of looking for the cell from
the front, from the gate, we

466
00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:28.159
look at the relationship. How can
we build rapport with those people? So

467
00:34:28.440 --> 00:34:30.400
what I like to do is I
want to talk first. I'm want to

468
00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:36.039
see what type of events they had
before and then they usually say who the

469
00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:38.679
person is that through that event or
who was the event manager or who you

470
00:34:38.679 --> 00:34:43.800
can contact contact that person and say, hey, I saw that you had

471
00:34:43.840 --> 00:34:47.039
this event last year or this event
coming up? Now are you still looking

472
00:34:47.039 --> 00:34:51.320
for speakers? And I'd rather do
it in person, so you can if

473
00:34:51.360 --> 00:34:53.000
you see that the person's name is
there, see if that person is at

474
00:34:53.039 --> 00:34:57.280
the event, that you're attending,
and then have a conversation with them,

475
00:34:57.639 --> 00:35:00.400
find out more about them. Hey, I noticed that you you were in

476
00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:05.000
charge of putting the event together last
year, or you know coming upcoming?

477
00:35:05.239 --> 00:35:07.639
Are you still looking for speakers?
They may say yes or no, And

478
00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:12.039
then if they say yes, you
say, oh great, you know how

479
00:35:12.239 --> 00:35:14.400
you know? What are you?
What type of speaker are you looking for?

480
00:35:14.679 --> 00:35:17.199
How may I be considered? Let
them know that you're interested, and

481
00:35:17.239 --> 00:35:20.840
then they may say, okay,
tell me more about your talk, tell

482
00:35:20.880 --> 00:35:23.239
me more about how you can serve, let them know and what if they

483
00:35:23.280 --> 00:35:27.280
say we are full this year,
then you can say, all right,

484
00:35:27.360 --> 00:35:30.079
I'd love to be considered for the
next event. I saw that you have

485
00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:36.480
this coming up. You always wanted
to be prepared to giving them the option

486
00:35:36.599 --> 00:35:39.519
to pull you into whatever is coming
next or they know that they can rely

487
00:35:39.679 --> 00:35:44.719
on you. And another thing you
can do, especially if you're not quite

488
00:35:44.719 --> 00:35:47.199
comfortable being like a keynote, because
you don't always have to be a keynote

489
00:35:47.199 --> 00:35:52.400
speaker, is you can look for
panel topics, panel discussions that cover your

490
00:35:52.480 --> 00:35:54.800
level of expertise that you can just
sit on the panel. Someone's asking you

491
00:35:54.880 --> 00:35:59.840
questions and you're just providing your value. That's a great way to get noticed

492
00:35:59.840 --> 00:36:02.800
as well. So look for those
types of things, Look for the people

493
00:36:02.840 --> 00:36:07.880
who are running the events or who
may have a secondary connection to the people

494
00:36:07.960 --> 00:36:12.400
running the events. Talk to the
crowd, let them know exactly what you're

495
00:36:12.400 --> 00:36:15.360
doing, what you're looking for.
And I always say that you'd be surprised.

496
00:36:15.639 --> 00:36:21.360
You'd be surprised who knows who or
who can do what. So don't

497
00:36:21.480 --> 00:36:24.599
discount someone because they're not in your
industry or they're not necessarily your target audience.

498
00:36:25.440 --> 00:36:31.360
Always speak to people with that respect
and be inquisitive. Find out how

499
00:36:31.679 --> 00:36:35.760
you can help them first and foremost, and then see if you can probe

500
00:36:35.760 --> 00:36:39.599
and find out how they can help
you. It again comes back to two

501
00:36:39.639 --> 00:36:45.719
things, right, building relationships and
not setting out of the gate and thinking

502
00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:50.239
about the impact. Because at the
heart and the core of an entrepreneurs of

503
00:36:50.280 --> 00:36:53.639
being service to others. So when
you're thinking of that impact, you'll be

504
00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:58.960
able to share with them what you
can talk about that's going to service their

505
00:36:59.000 --> 00:37:04.800
audience. And now let's say you
do have that speaking gig, and once

506
00:37:04.800 --> 00:37:08.119
you're in there, you've talked about
building relationships as well as you've talked about

507
00:37:08.119 --> 00:37:12.039
call to action. So let's say
if you're just kind of getting introduced,

508
00:37:12.920 --> 00:37:16.599
so a first time audience, some
cases you may be coming back and speaking

509
00:37:16.639 --> 00:37:21.639
to the same audience. So,
especially in those first time cases, what

510
00:37:21.679 --> 00:37:25.599
are typical good call to actions to
have? Yeah, one is connecting,

511
00:37:25.719 --> 00:37:30.119
connecting with you right on whatever you
your ideal platform is. You don't want

512
00:37:30.119 --> 00:37:34.360
to make it too complex. You
don't want to give them five different things.

513
00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:37.800
Give them one thing to do.
So if you're able to sell,

514
00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:39.360
maybe you have a book you've written, you can say, hey, you

515
00:37:39.400 --> 00:37:43.960
could purchase my book at this site. I like to use QR codes because

516
00:37:43.960 --> 00:37:46.679
people can scan it and they also
can see the link, so I like

517
00:37:46.760 --> 00:37:51.119
to put a QR code up there. You can also have the call to

518
00:37:51.159 --> 00:37:53.320
action. Maybe you are making back
in the room sales where you have like

519
00:37:53.320 --> 00:37:57.079
a table or something set up.
You can make a call to action to

520
00:37:57.519 --> 00:38:00.880
come check out my table whatever that
is. You can make a call to

521
00:38:00.920 --> 00:38:06.000
action to say if you can't do
any of those things because the event planner

522
00:38:06.039 --> 00:38:08.280
won't allow it, you can make
a call to action to you know what,

523
00:38:08.719 --> 00:38:12.159
if you had to speak, for
instance, I might have a speak

524
00:38:12.199 --> 00:38:15.679
about speaking engagement about you know,
impacting change, and I might sell it,

525
00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:17.960
you know, I want them to
be a change maker, and then

526
00:38:19.000 --> 00:38:22.639
I might at the end, I
might say, so think about how you

527
00:38:22.639 --> 00:38:25.760
can impact change today, right,
or something like that, and leaving with

528
00:38:25.760 --> 00:38:29.840
a cliffhanger where they have this question
in their mind, they say, how

529
00:38:29.880 --> 00:38:34.280
can I be? Because really you
want to provoke some type of difference,

530
00:38:34.840 --> 00:38:37.079
right, It's about making a difference
in some way for them. But you

531
00:38:37.159 --> 00:38:42.320
just have to think about what that
that call to action again if it makes

532
00:38:42.400 --> 00:38:45.039
sense, but what you're there for. But I like the connecting ones.

533
00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:49.360
I don't even sell typically from stage. I want to be connected to you

534
00:38:49.880 --> 00:38:52.960
so that I have you again.
It's not the short term, but we

535
00:38:52.039 --> 00:38:57.000
have long term relationships where we can
start building a rapport. And if they

536
00:38:57.039 --> 00:39:00.599
connect with me on like a LinkedIn
or Facebook and I tell them, hey,

537
00:39:00.639 --> 00:39:02.599
send me that direct message, let
me know what stood out for you,

538
00:39:02.679 --> 00:39:07.119
let me know how we connected and
you know what resonated with you,

539
00:39:07.480 --> 00:39:12.119
then that automatically gives them agency to
say, hey, Javan, you know

540
00:39:12.159 --> 00:39:15.119
I saw you speak at ex place. You know I'd love this part of

541
00:39:15.159 --> 00:39:16.800
it. And they're gonna tell me
everything then I'm gonna ask, oh,

542
00:39:16.840 --> 00:39:21.760
that's great, you know why why
did that stand out for you? And

543
00:39:21.760 --> 00:39:24.280
then I can have this conversation and
then that could lead to my next speaking

544
00:39:24.320 --> 00:39:29.159
engagement, or that could lead to
another business or maybe just a friend.

545
00:39:29.559 --> 00:39:31.760
Right, So that's why I like
that one best. But you can do

546
00:39:31.800 --> 00:39:37.360
it based on the audience in the
environment that you're Yeah. No, definitely

547
00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:45.599
some very todd provoking points over here. So now tell us how do you

548
00:39:45.719 --> 00:39:52.519
even your business with speaking engagements and
how is it that your hope people?

549
00:39:53.840 --> 00:39:59.360
Absolutely, I mean speaking of gayments
are the primary way that I generate business.

550
00:39:59.760 --> 00:40:02.639
So I'm a coaching consultant. I
focus on leadership and executive coaching and

551
00:40:02.639 --> 00:40:07.320
then consulting for service businesses, professional
services, and tech firms. Right.

552
00:40:07.360 --> 00:40:13.079
So how it helps me is if
I know that I want more coaching clients

553
00:40:13.079 --> 00:40:15.840
in the leadership space, I'm gonna
go speak out a leadership conference or something

554
00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:20.079
to deal with those business owners and
key decision makers. Right. So,

555
00:40:20.320 --> 00:40:22.159
in my call to action is stiff, We're gonna be hey, connect with

556
00:40:22.159 --> 00:40:27.360
me. So when they see me
speak and I'm asking them to connect with

557
00:40:27.360 --> 00:40:29.719
me and they do it, they
may connect with me right then and there,

558
00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:31.880
they may pull me off to the
side. And that's another point you

559
00:40:32.280 --> 00:40:36.719
when you do get a speaking engagement, make sure you're not just there for

560
00:40:36.840 --> 00:40:40.679
your talk and then you leave.
Get there before introduce yourself to however many

561
00:40:40.679 --> 00:40:45.239
people you can introduce yourself before getting
up on that stage. And then when

562
00:40:45.239 --> 00:40:47.239
you come off that stage, don't
be on my own olympus where people can't

563
00:40:47.239 --> 00:40:52.280
reach you. Come off that stage
and talk to the audience, right because

564
00:40:52.320 --> 00:40:55.840
that's going to show that you're genuine, you're approachable, you're personable. That's

565
00:40:55.920 --> 00:41:00.960
going to help you make those relationships
faster. So that's another thing that I

566
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:04.400
do when I have these speaking engagements. I take advantage. I'm there and

567
00:41:04.400 --> 00:41:07.679
I'm present, I'm not on my
phone afterwards, I'm not leaving, I

568
00:41:07.719 --> 00:41:12.480
don't have another engagement. I use
that time to make those connections. So

569
00:41:12.719 --> 00:41:15.960
speaking engagements are very key to mine. And I speak virtually. I speak

570
00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:21.360
in person. Right. You have
these different options that you can leverage,

571
00:41:21.599 --> 00:41:24.599
but I'm always there no matter if
it's a free engagement or paying engagement.

572
00:41:25.000 --> 00:41:31.840
I'm always there. Very intentional about
being a powerful and impactful speaker. I'm

573
00:41:31.920 --> 00:41:36.039
never gonna be like Oh this is
free. I'm just gonna wing it,

574
00:41:36.199 --> 00:41:39.760
no gonna come there. I'm gonna
have prepared there before it, and I'm

575
00:41:39.800 --> 00:41:44.280
going to give my all, right, and then I'm going to make sure

576
00:41:44.320 --> 00:41:47.760
that people know how to find me
connect with me so that I can give

577
00:41:47.840 --> 00:41:52.360
my all again and for whatever they
have going on. And that's the power

578
00:41:52.360 --> 00:41:57.000
we're speaking for me in my business. Yeah, and that's definitely very powerful.

579
00:41:57.400 --> 00:42:00.519
And it's all about showing up fully
and being present for people over there.

580
00:42:01.159 --> 00:42:06.920
So if our audience, I'm sure
many would like to connect with you

581
00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:10.239
there, can they connect with you? And what's the best way of reaching

582
00:42:10.280 --> 00:42:15.679
you? Hey? LinkedIn right LinkedIn
you can connect with me. Just search

583
00:42:15.719 --> 00:42:21.400
my name Javon Wooden jev O n
w O O d E N and you'll

584
00:42:21.400 --> 00:42:23.559
see NBA with a light bulb and
that's me. I found out there's another

585
00:42:23.639 --> 00:42:27.400
Givon Wooden on there, so I
always got to add that. And then

586
00:42:27.480 --> 00:42:34.800
you can also go to my website
Brightmind Consulting Group and just so that one

587
00:42:34.840 --> 00:42:37.719
of the first things you'll see is
how to schedule a consultation or do an

588
00:42:37.719 --> 00:42:45.000
assessment for your business. And either
way you're gonna get me another, well

589
00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:50.480
fantastic. As we wrap up the
show, do you have any last words?

590
00:42:51.079 --> 00:42:55.280
Yes, share your story, Share
your story, and you can do

591
00:42:55.320 --> 00:42:59.719
it in your own way. You
do not need to be a keynote speaker.

592
00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:02.719
You don't have to get up on
huge stages. Share your story though,

593
00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:09.840
use your platform to create that impact
and establish your legacy. I agree

594
00:43:10.320 --> 00:43:15.679
one because the more we share of
ourselves, the more we share about our

595
00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:21.360
stories, people know where you have
been and you can impact even if one

596
00:43:21.440 --> 00:43:24.400
person who maybe feeling like, oh, I'm down and under I can't do

597
00:43:24.480 --> 00:43:28.559
this, and then they can see
that Yep, if this person could do

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it, I can do it too. Absolutely, So thank you Joan for

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coming to our show and providing such
valuable nuggets. Well, thank you so

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much for having me dave you.
This has been fine. Absolutely, and

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thank you listeners, because without you
the show would not be possible. Thank

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you for reaching out to us and
letting us know your thoughts and requests like

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as to how we can help you, because know that we are here to

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help you live the life you want
in the best way possible and so that

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you can live have that lifestyle that
you deserve. Well, thank you for

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being part of our show, and
thank you one for making the show technically

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possible. Until next time, be
well and take care. Thank you for

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being part of Beyond Confidence. With
your host, Diva Park, we hope

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you have learned more about how to
start living the life you want. Each

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week on Beyond Confidence, you hear
stories of real people who've experienced growth by

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overcoming their fears and building meaningful relationships. During Beyond Confidence, Diva Park shares

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what happened to her when she stepped
out of her comfort zone to work directly

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with people across the globe. She
not only coaches people how to form hard

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connections, but also transform relationships to
mutually beneficial partnerships as they strive to live

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the life they want. If you
are ready to live the life you want

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and leverage your strengths, learn more
at www dot dvapark dot com and you

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can connect with Diva at contact at
divapark dot com. We look forward to

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you joining us next week.