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Good morning listeners. It is Tuesday morning

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and today we are having quite a
bit of rain and they're even predicting thunder

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and tornadoes. So I'm glad that
we still have power. Hopefully the power

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stays on and that we are able
to have our conversation with you. So

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what I'm going to share is what
recently happens. Actually it was sometime last

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year. I know it feels so
it's just, you know, we are

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a few days into the new year. It's still kind of I'm still thinking

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we're in twenty twenty three VIETNAD so
a couple of probably, like you know,

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sometime in December, I was having
a conversation with my client, and

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my client goes and says that,
Okay, we have set a lot of

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goals for me, what about you? I'd just like to know about that.

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And then it came to me that
as I was reflecting upon twenty twenty

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three and as we go into the
new year's remember that only eight percent of

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people achieve their goals. So usually
we go with Okay, what's the one

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word for the year. So this
year we are going with three words,

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and I'm going to share the one
of my words that I'm working on is

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consistency and how can we build habits
that become automated just like you know,

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driving your car or brushing your teeth
or you don't have to even think about

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it. So yes, I am. What I'm doing is I am building

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consistency. And if you are looking
to build tiny habits that can get you

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to be those eight percent who achieved
the newest resolution, you can get a

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free gift and you can see it. It's success dot tv, Apartic dot

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com at Atomic Habit Gifts. So
if you because I want you to be

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successful, that's the key. So
let's bring in our guest. Welcome doctor

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Martin and please be here with you
absolutely so share with us. Do you

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recall any time from your childhood that
still stands out for you today? Oh?

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I think there are many many times
I had a happy childhood, always

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lots of my parents and churishly lots
of projects. I started up in a

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local newspaper I think at the age
of seven and reported in a fallen tree

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in backyard type of stories. And
but no, I think there are a

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lot of different things from my childhood
that I can ren act on in England

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where I grew up. So what
would be one that stems out for you

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I'm one or two? Oh gosh, Well, I think I had an

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unusual background in the sense that my
parents were very much concerned with the overseas

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students that were flocking into London for
education and yet having a hard time finding

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housing, finding other things, and
so they used to host these vast parties

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in our home fifty people from all
over the world and from every imaginar continent.

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Who were you know, in England
studying for their degrees from various parts

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of particularly the Commonwalth, And so
I was used to seeing these talking to

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large terms of people from large different
countries. One result was I had the

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most phenomenal stamp collection because they also
and Christmas cards from more over the world.

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Later, so I've got a complete
collection of every stamp that existed from

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Ghana or whatever. You know.
It just it was amazing. So,

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you know, it was a very
interesting background that I was exposed to.

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Yeah, that's fascinating that not only
were exposed to different cultures, because every

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culture people coming from different regions.
Even though we share so many commonalities,

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they have their own tweaks and traditions
and different perspectives. So as you grew

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up, when did you know that
you wanted to go in medicine. Well,

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I knew I wanted to go into
science. I was clearly, you

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know, I found my affinity in
that, and then I was interested in,

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you know, how do I apply
it to human benefit, to you

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know, making a difference. I
actually had a glimma that I wanted to

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get into medical science as to just
medicine, And as soon as I got

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to college and my first classes in
physiology, I knew that's where I wanted

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to be, at the study of
how the body normally works. And that

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led me on a very interesting career
over the years with some great teachers and

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so forth. But a chance to
really be at the beginning of a scientific

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field of Sakinian clocks and being right
at the outset, which is a great

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place to be in any scientific field. M But yeah, So as you

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were studying different courses and different areas
of medicine, you know, medicine is

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thought to be very very sometimes a
lot of people say that you've got to

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have really, really good memory to
become a doctor. Do you think that

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that's a true myth? Well,
I think the various attributes. I mean

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one of the things is you you
know, learning human anatomy and all the

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nerves and blood vessels and where they
all go. You know, it certainly

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requires memory. I remember my one
of my professors up there saying, you

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know you are going to be you
know, one way of measuring intelligence is

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by the size of your vocabar how
many words you know, We're going to

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double that with it because of course
you've got the whole medical and hold up

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a medical dictionary with the same number
of words as in the regular Oxford English

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dictionary. So yes, there's memory
there. There are a lot of things

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the medicine are, there's technologies there, there are skills there, and then

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of course, of course you've got
to successfully relate that to people and have

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the skills to listen to people.
So it's it's it's a challenge doing something

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very technical but also having to explain
it to people of a wide range of

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backgrounds and levels of understanding and levels
of you know, IQ and everything else.

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You've got to be able to explain
to everybody, and you get to

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see a lot of things, of
course, which you normally wouldn't be exposed

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to. Mm hmmm, not definitely, that makes sense. So what would

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you say that as you finish your
medical school were your two or three lessons

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that you've carried with yourself throughout your
life? Well, Number one, I

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knew I took a detour out of
medicine to do an honors degree in physiology,

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so I knew I wanted to specialize
in the science. I actually started

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a number of medical research projects while
I was in medical school. I recruited

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I recruited my classmates to spend a
week in bed collecting blood and your insight

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couples every three hours around the clock, in order to study at the phenomenon

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I was interested in, which was
these phenomena, these saccadian rhythms, these

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changes in body functure around day night. And also one of my early projects

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was I had a opportunity to go
to America early on when I was in

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medical school, atually a couple of
times. The first time I spent on

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an American Indian reservation, it was
a you know, a so called work

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camp for social camp, helping them
with their But I did a study then

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of diabetes and the American Indian population, which I published, and very good

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advice from you know, trying to
write for a scientific audience is very different

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than writing for a non scientific audience. Learning those skills. I also had

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a chance, when I was in
medical school to spend a summer at Stanford

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University and I was assigned to the
NASA Aims Space Center. And this was

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this really dates me, but this
was back in nineteen sixty eight before the

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Moon landing, and I was given
the task of, since I had a

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background physiology, of actually figuring out
what happened to blood flow in the lung

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of the astronauts on the Moon's surface
where you had one third the normal gravity,

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And there's a phenomenon to do with
the blood flow in the lung and

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the airflow and the line on how
the two mixed together, something called technically

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for VQ ratios, and I built
a computer program. I was asked to

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build a computer program to model what
would happen when the astronauts landed, and

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that was an interesting challenge. I
never programmed a computer in my life before

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I went down to the Stanford bookstore
found a book on Fortran. These are

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the days of the huge mainframes and
punch cards and you know, the old

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and the sort of thing that would
you do in an afternoon on a you

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know, Apple computer or whatever.
You know, this was a massive effort

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to do those days. One bag
in it and you had to run the

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whole thing. But you go take
the base taxi down to the to the

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main foot of the big data center, our computer center, load up your

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cards, the answers, will you
know the run would come back later that

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afternoon. You pick up a huge
stack of paper with it. But yeah,

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I did. I did my bed. I'd like to say putting Man

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on the Moon a small bed but
a little bit so sounds definitely sounds like

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you know, your life pass traverse
through very very interesting landscapes. So when

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did you arrive that? When you
got interested in the circadian rhythms? And

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you know we spend one third of
our lives sleeping and that if you get

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good sleep, So tell us what
got you interested in that? Well?

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I heard a very inspirational lecture by
a professor Ashoff from Germany as one of

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the pioneers, and the while I
was in medical school, so I was

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intrigued. It didn't become really real
until I after graduating from medical school,

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I headed off to Toronto, where
I had his family, to do my

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surgical internship, and I found myself
on the job thirty six hours NonStop,

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twelve hours off, back in for
thirty six twelve hours off, and so

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forth, one hundred and eight hours
of what plus a week walking around like

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a zombie under bright for restaurant lights
all day long and totally scrambled with my

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sleep, my fatigue. I was
nodding off in the operating room, surgeon

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yelling at me at three o'clock in
the morning, and the hand slept.

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I was writing prescriptions. I could
make sense the next day. I wasn't

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the early one, obviously, everyone
working in these incredible schedules. They put

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a hearing doctor through. And that
actually got me so interested that I took

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a detour out of surgical residence as
my way to do, you know,

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caddiac surgery or something like that.
And I took a detour and came down

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and got a PhD place in the
PhD program at Harvard Medical School to study

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these Sacchinian rhythms, and I got
the opportunity to work in the surgery department

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under Professor Frannie Moore, who was
really a pioneer in the whole field of

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surgical research. And I did my
PhD in the physiology department, and so

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I was able to do my post
arc in my PhD at the same time,

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which was a sort of level.
It was actually a fairly efficient way

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of doing it. But along the
way, that's when I really dug into

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saccinia rhythms and how they worked,
and that started my whole career. I

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was warned off that field, by
the way, because people were telling me,

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senior professors and MIT and Harvard were
saying, this is a nonsense field.

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There's nothing to it. It's just
electric magnetic effects, the a's rotation.

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No one's ever discovered a biological clock
in the brain or anywhere else.

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And this is all before the first
discovery of the Cicadian clock in first of

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all in mice and hamsters, racks
and hamsters. And then later on when

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I became a professor of Harvard,
we led the team. I lead the

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team that discovered where the Cicadian clock
was in the human brain. In other

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words, the clock. Why don't
we kind of that's that's a very fascinating

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story. You know, people wanting
you off. So most people have heard

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of circadian rhythms and circadian clock.
But if you can give us a full

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picture as to what is a circadian
rhythm and how does the circadian clock work

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for human beings. Absolutely well,
we are recognize or recognize that we normally

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have a pattern where we tend to
be sleeping at night and tend to be

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active during the day. And along
with that, almost everything in our body,

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a temperature in our body, a
hormone, novels, everything else changes

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on a cyclical pattern. Now,
all the different functions of the body have

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different patterns. So body temperature peaks
in the evening hours, cortisol or homeless

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stress hormone peaks just before you wake
in the morning, growth hormone peaks just

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after you fall asleep. So we've
got this whole orchestra. This can cut

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this orchestra of circadian rhythms which are
all synchronized to the day night cycle in

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the normal world. Now, of
course, when you work irregular hours or

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up for twenty four or thirty six
hours, My I was, you are

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disrupting the whole pattern. You're disrupting
it. But everyone thought that was just

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a you know, the first response. People are thinking this is just a

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passive response to day and night and
so forth. But in fact, when

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you study animals or people in environments
where there are no timekeys whatsoever, no

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windows, no clocks, and nothing
to tell time of day, the pattern

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that keeps on going, it's an
intrinsic Sicinian where them it runs slightly off

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twenty four hours, closer to between
twenty four and twenty five hours in length.

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The cycle keeps on going, and
it's synchronized by light. And that

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was the one of the key discoveries
we made. I mean, it's well

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learn in animals that were synchronized by
light, in fruit flies and in hamsters

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and in rats and every other.
But when I entered this field, it

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was thought that humans weren't synchronized by
light, and it was thought that humans

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didn't have a Circadian clock. Those
are two major things we were able to

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prove were wrong. That humans do
in fact have a Cicadian clock, and

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humans are in fact synchronized by light
falling on the eyes and passing through a

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special pathway to the Cicadian clock,
which is one or more primitive parts of

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the brain. It's called the simper
chiasmatic nucleus. We call it SCN for

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short, much easier to pronounce.
But that's that's the master clock, but

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not the only clock in the body, because every cell in the body and

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every tissue in the body has its
own circadian rhythms, its own circadian clocks.

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So we really have a whole orchestra
of these rhythmic processes in our body

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that are essential to function, to
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metabolism. We're really built very precisely
time machines the human body. So basically

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what I'm hearing is that nature gave
us pre programmed not only we have that

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circadian clock in our brain, but
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tissue. How intelligent nature is.
Now here we come and then we change

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all these patterns and all that.
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if somebody were to live in optimal
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getting into wellness now, so what
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for example, you know a lot
of people are wondering like, okay,

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especially for young youngsters, staying out
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morning and then going to sleep and
sleeping during the day, or for that

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matter, you know a lot there
are a lot of people who work late

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night. What would you tell them
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the optimal day is to follow a
healthy light diet, just like your nutritional

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diets. In your light diet,
what you need in the mornings is you

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need access to bright daylight now.
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indoor lights we have are so dim. We literally live in twilight levels indoors.

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So that you know, many homes
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measured in one measurement is lux like
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would be five hundred blucks, but
outdoors it's fifty thousand bucks to one hundred

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bucks. That bright light is really
essential to our health. The sunlight is

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curative, and it's curative because of
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don't think of light. I mean, by the way, white light is

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not a color. White is the
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We only see those colors when you
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the sky and get a rainbow,
or light falls on a crystal and forms

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a pattern color PATTERNA wall light is
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of those colors has a health component
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days. So and out of all
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is highly sensitive to a very specific
blue color. For example, when we

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discover the Cedinian clock, discovered it
synchronized by light. We thought any white

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light would do. In fact,
it's a blue light. It's a sky

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blue color. And it's fascinating story
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measure around four hundred and eighty nanometers. What visible light is somewhere between four

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hundred and seven hundred odd nanometers.
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spectrums that we can actually visually see. Below that is ultraviolet, above that

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is our infrared, but in that
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sky blue color, not a royal
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but a sky blue color. That
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called ipRGCs. It's intrinsically sensitive retinal
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not involved in vision, not involved
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I'm looking at you for the computer
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blue that's coming in, and that's
the key que other colors of the rainbow

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and sunlight. By the way,
red is curative and cell repair makes your

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hair grow. Green relieves you from
pain and stress and release migraines. For

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example, violet light is very effective
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of elements of the lights. There's
a lot of health in the light spectrum,

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and the only place you can get
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whether it's in sunlight or even in
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in daylight it's many times brighter than
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As you go into later on in
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certainly you want to avoid that blue
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day LEDs are pump us full of
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Whether it's coming from the light bulb, light fixtures, the computer screens or

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tablets or iPhones or whatever on mobile
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And so one of the big inventions
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that precise blue that's causing the problem. You want to see the blue during

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the day, but you want to
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so kind of like you're winding back. You mentioned that it's important to

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go outside. So are you talking
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sunlight, because then there is of
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light that can cause damage to skin
cells. Or it's like you know,

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you can be just outside and it
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It's better in the mornings before noon. So you know that you don't

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want to the full middle of the
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the disposure of light before it gets
into the fall, you know, the

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full high in the sky light and
are but the effects are enormous. So

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the effects people who live indoors and
don't go outside have an increased risk of

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early death equivalent to smokers. So
another oh, I take twenty nine thousand

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Swedish women. They studied them and
they looked at how many hours did they

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spend outside. Those that spend most
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years and years longer than those that
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know exposure to light. We also
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the critical time. Fascinating studies in
psychiatric hospitals in Scandinavia in particular, where

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they've looked at hospitals where one half
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facing east and south, so they're
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the windows. The other half of
the hospital had rooms of the opposite side

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of the corridor facing north and west, and the patient submitted to the sunlight

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filled rooms in the morning, the
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in half the time as compared to
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same doctors, the same drugs and
everything else. That light is curative,

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So we know that morning light is
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actually keeps our Sakeedian clocks synchronized,
keeps us healthy. So getting out in

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the mornings is key, and as
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day ideally, And you know,
people concerned. There's been all sorts of

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publicity about skin cancers and other things
explosion to light. It turns out the

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effect, this effect is way bigger, way, way bigger than any risk

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of increased in cancer. So that's
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getting out in the mornings and being
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day religiously. And you know,
whether you're walking, you're running, you're

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sitting outside. You know it's good
time to exercise too, obviously, but

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that's a very key part of the
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what happens is in the winter time, especially like the daylight savings time,

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people may not have time and they're
going to work. So what I'm hearing

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is that even if you are for
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it's going to be beneficial than having
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no, I mean I want to
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an hour to an hour if you
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light that's critical. Yeah, And
I just do not get it inside right.

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And as you mentioned about the blue
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and of course there are studies after
bodies that have shown that sometimes the blue

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light can even cause insomnia. So
tell us about the blue lights coming from

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the computers, light bulbs, and
our phones. What can people do,

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what kind of screens or what can
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I mean, of course, now
our whole life. We are practically living

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through computers and our devices. So
what can people do to reduce that exposure.

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very important. It's the time of
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to see as much blue light as
possible during the daytime hours. You want

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to avoid it during the evening and
nighttime outs. So that's really the key,

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you know, because you confuse the
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at the wrong time. So the
answer is don't use blue blocking glasses and

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so forth. During the day time, you want the blue, and you

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do want that blue, but in
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avoid it, whether it's blue blocking
glasses. Unfortunately, many blue blocking glasses

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block entirely the wrong blue misleading advertising
there. There are also computer screens coming

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out now, and there's certainly lights
coming out. In fact, there's a

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new line of lights coming out that
are zero blue for the daytime for the

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nighttime use, so they switch automatically
between a high blue content during the day

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and a zero blue content during the
night, and that is bringing proven to

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be enormously effective, reduced to the
risk of diabetes and heart disease, obestee,

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the long term risk of chances,
and so forth. So we've done

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a lot of work demonstrating that that
really controlling when you see this sky blue.

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This light is absolutely critical to health
and regularity of your life is important.

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Make it as ring as you can't
sleep on a regular schedule. The

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other side of it is when you
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Amazing numbers of people, I mean, the studies are seen show maybe

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thirty forty percent of young people,
over fifty percent of elder people sleep with

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some lights on in the bedroom at
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the risk of OBESII, diabetes and
heart disease. It's a huge effect.

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So sleep in the dark is the
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is the most robust because if you
go back to the days before electric

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light, most people spend most of
their time outdoors exposed to daylight, and

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they spent their evenings maybe they had
candles or they had fire wood fires,

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but they have virtually no blue in
candles and woodflers. It's only when we

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come to our energy of ficient electric
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that they're using blue. It's the
most efficient way to convert electricity into energy

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into light. And the challenge is
that that is that energy policy which sounds

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so good, save the planets,
save our climate and so forth, is

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actually highly derritarian. It's highlyangerious to
our health. And so you know,

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one of the big messages out that
we really can't use these LED lights.

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In fact, I just shair a
panel of almost two hundred and fifty scientists

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the needed sciences around the world who
reach the consensus that the regular eded lights

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you're vying on the hardware store these
days should carry a warning label may be

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harmful if used at night, because
of the severity of the problem and the

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strength and scientific research showing there is
a problem. So that said, if

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it is so harmful to our health, what are the other alternatives? Well,

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as I say, to get zero
blue lights, a company called Chorus

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is bringing out both fixture light fixtures
for the ceiling offices and so forth,

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and for you know, and also
the light bulbs also that are zero blue.

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They still you can engineer light these
days. One of the beauty is

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about LEDs. By the way,
it's can engineer any spectrum we want.

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Know words, you can actually create
a relevantly white light without you blueing it,

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and you would see its like a
slight yellow than it would be.

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But it's not a big change,
and it's certainly very comforting to the eyes

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as well. But those zero blue
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The other options I mentioned is blue
blocking glasses. Providing they're blocking the

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right blue. They've got to beat
glasses that are readically orange and yellow in

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color to block that's appearance you get
when you block the blue. But essentially

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those are things that people can do, and again sleep switch the lights out

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of night. You do not want
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or blue light. Red light is
not really a problem. It doesn't really

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disrupt the pattern. So if you
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have a red light clock, not
a blue or a white light clock.

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And you mentioned that cars is coming
out with it for offices, But what

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about people in homes, because I'm
sure our listeners and viewers are having this

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question where can they get You had
mentioned that those blue light blocking glasses block

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the wrong blue light, So where
can they find the most appropriate glasses?

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And those light bulbs, well lights, the ones we've been involved in developing

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For the blue blocking glasses are ones
that are called blue Safe twenty four that's

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engineered very specifically to block out the
harmful blue for evening use. In terms

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of the light bulbs, you can
get zero blue light bulbs at a song

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the Sorrow Store. If you search
for sorrow, zero blue and sorrow spelled

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s O r AA. You can
find light bulbs today that are zero blue

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light bulbs. As I say,
in a month or two they're coming up

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with light bulbs that will automatically provide
you blue rich light during the day and

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switch to zero blue in the evenings. But yes, those products are available,

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and you know, it's one of
the inventions that I did when I

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was faced with this problem, because
you know, to go back a little

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bit there we were in about two
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just declared that light at night was
carcinogenic because of the crew fifty percent increased

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risk and breast cancer and women for
example, and because you know, women

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we've never seen electric electric light don't
get breast cancer. Very rare to get

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breast cancer, whether you're in afric
parts of Africa, is the image behind

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me show very low rates of breast
cancer much higher rates, more than five

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fold increase rates in areas of the
world where there's a lot of electric light,

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like western Europe or in America.
And so that finding back in two

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thousand and seven said to us,
you know what companies were asking us about.

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Our clients were asking us, what
do we do about this problem?

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Because we can't switch off the lights
at night. We can't stop our business

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at night. If you're running an
ir refinery or a call center or a

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hospital, you can't stop business and
you can't switch off the lights. What

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do we do about it? And
that's when that got me interested in the

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challenge, and that's when we started
probing as to what exactly the problem identify

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this blue spectrum and then went on
to develop patented LEDs that produce the correct

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blue I hide in that sky blue
during the day and absent with zero sky

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blue during the nighttime hours. So
a lot of people are probably like intrigued

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as we have talked about it,
because there's a lot of like, you

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know, complexity to it. And
I can see the book in your background,

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can you tell us more if somebody
wanted to figure out and wanted to

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even kind of see you know what
lights to have in their house and so

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where can we find more details?
Well, first of all, I wrote

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The Light Doctor because I wanted to
make this accessible to everybody there really is.

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Everyone needs to understand that the light
they see is important to their health

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as the food they eat, the
water they drink, and the air they

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breathe. And what in fact is
the basis of it? And how do

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you understand all this? And so
I wrote that for the general reader.

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It's currently available on substack and if
you just search for The Light Doctor and

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substack, the whole book is online
right now and then I'm producing in the

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print version later on this year.
But had a very good best selling on

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substack, a very good response.
But it's really trying to explain for the

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average person who's not a scientist but
needs to understand the light they need to

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protect their health, themselves, their
children, their families, what lights they

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look demand in schools and hospitals because
the world has been taken over by this

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enthusiasm for blue rich LEDs that are
static never changed the blue content day and

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night, and that's causing a ton
of harm, a huge amount of harm.

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And the lighting industry is sort of
understands this now, I think,

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but they're still well, let's you
know, they're still pumping out these lights

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that are harmful, and I think
we're running into an asbesto scale liability problem

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right now if the light industry doesn't
change. So I'm very pleased to see

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it starting now to introduce lights that
actually are designed to be healthy, because

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this is this is an environmental pollutant. Blue light at night, not blue

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light during the day, but blue
light at night. And yet it's one

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of the most easy of environmental pollutants
to change. You just change the light

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bulb, you know, cleaning up
a toxic chemicals or dealing with you know,

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forever chemical p fast chemicals. This
is easy. Just change the light

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bulb and change the lights you use. And so that's really the key.

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Yeah, no, definitely, So
thank you for sharing with us all the

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details. Is there anything else you'd
like to share with our audience. Well,

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this is time to learn about light
and to understand light, because I

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say, there's a lot that people
don't understand about light. We take it

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so for granted. The light switch
on the wall is such an easy thing

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to flick on and don't think about
anything. Light is not just foreseeing light

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is also for your health. The
elements in light that are critical for your

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health. So we tend to buy
lights and them soul lights and lights and

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advertise based on the ability to make
our spaces attractive and pretty, and you

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know, beautiful lighting is the key. But in fact what really matters is

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that light healthy for you and does
it in fact keep our circating clocks in

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order, because our scinity clocks are
absolutely fundamental for our health. People who

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expose for light at night, you
know, a big style In eighty eight

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thousand people in their average age their
sixties studied how much light they had on

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and at night in their bedrooms and
so forth, and those that have the

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most light died thirty percent faster.
That population they followed them over ten years

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or so, they died thirty percent
faster. It's a huge effect that we're

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aware of. Psychiatric illness is highly
linked to depression, anxiety thirty percent increased

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by explosion or wrong light at the
wrong time, And so a lot of

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the illness in our society, amazingly
is by something we didn't ever suspect.

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It's by the lights we're using.
And that's something we can do a huge

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effect. It's one of the reasons, by the way, I believe that

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the average lifespan of the American male
or female is really plataued. It's sort

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of you know, and actually started
going down a whole bit, obviously because

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of COVID, but it really reached
the peak. I think we can give

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many more people a healthier lifespan by
the use of the right light at the

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right time. And so this is
a mission, This is a key educational

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mission. I'm delighted to have a
chance to share that with your audience here,

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because you've got a big audience that
of intelligent people who you know,

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need to know and yet don't.
And it's amazing to me. I've just

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spoken to producers of various shows,
you know, all the famous TV shows

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that can Morning America, Today's Show, and so forth. Actually none of

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them understood this problem. And yet
the scientists know it and so and as

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I said, over two hundred and
fifty scientists that are confirming this is very

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real and very serious and needs to
be addressed. So this is one of

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the things that has to get into
public consciousness. And it's yet and it's

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so easy to fix so easy to
address. Absolutely, so thank you for

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bringing it to our attention and thank
you for joining us listeners, so we

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have shared the information with you.
Definitely go check it out and see how

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you can improve your circadian rhythms get
good night's sleep, because we are committed

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to helping you live a very healthy, long and happy life. So let

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us know how else we can support
you and how we can help you to

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live the best life you can live. So thank you for joining us,

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and thank you one for making the
show technically possible. Be well and take

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care until next time. Thank you
for being part of Beyond Confidence. With

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your host V Park, we hope
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