Finding Emotional Mastery in Your Finances

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And let's bring in our guests. Malcolm

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maren Hi, thanks for having me. I would, sir, just as

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you mentioned earlier, it's just a
coffee chat, a conversation between two friends.

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And let me ask you this,
do you recall any positive moment?

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Are a positive person that left a
positive mark on you that you even to

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this day, like you know,
you think about that moment or that person

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and you are filled with positivity.
I think there's a lot of people that

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any one specific person I think I
want to go to where when I was

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kind of in that state of a
little bit of struggling finding someone's podcast and

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listening to her and listening to her
mindset and just kind of devouring her podcast

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for lack of a better word,
and that was something that was really helpful

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in a time of like that,
I you know, needed to hear the

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message. And I think that that
was that was like a pivotal point for

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me. That's a powerful story,
and it goes back to what I was

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saying earlier is that so many of
us think, oh, I don't have

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anything to offer, and just listening
to a podcast, and it can make

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such a difference in someone's life.
And similarly, how you're showing up for

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yourself, how you're showing up for
people and your sphere of influence, how

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you're showing up for the humanity.
It does make a difference. So when

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you were a young girl, what
would you say were your interests? I

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loved to swim, And you know, one of the things is I've kind

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of like picked apart and taken time
off and really slowed down and allowed myself

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to reflect, like there are parts
in my childhood that you know, like

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we remember sometimes the painful parts,
you know, and asking my parents or

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my like what did I really love? And I loved roller skating and I

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loved to swim, and the swimming
and the ocean in all parts water is

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something that I still love to do
every day. And that was something that

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like to reconnect to her during my
time off, like what did I love

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to do and what do I love
to do? And it's yeah, it's

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swimming in all forms, ocean,
pool, water sports, all the things.

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Yeah, water has a beauty of
its own and especially ocean since you

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mentioned about it. It is just
so vast and hold such an ecosystem within

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itself that it's just fascinating to me
that what appears on the top is not

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it's what it all has. And
similarly, be as human beings are like

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that. So as you grew up, what direction did your life take?

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I think, you know, as
I was younger, like you know,

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five, seven, eight, something
like that, I think, you know,

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little Aaron did all the things.
And then there was a pivotal moment

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in life that I experienced with my
parents in their financial situation around the age

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of ten, and I think that
that had a profound impact on me in

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the way that I viewed money and
things of that sort. And you know,

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after that it was very much So
I think I was focused, Like

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I say that I've worked since I
was like twelve, you know, Like

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I asked my mom the other day, I'm like, why did I work?

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Like she was like, because you
wanted money to be able to do

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the things that you wanted to do. And so, you know, reflecting

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and like having such compassion for little
Aaron that maybe yes, had a childhood

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right, but like now being able
to really do the things that I want

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to do, play the way that
I want to play, and yeah,

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really really being intentional with how I
spend my time now. And I think

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that that that probably was how I
spend my time now is a reflection because

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I think of maybe how I did
not get to do that when I was

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a kid. Yeah, and as
a child, the way I see it

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is, you know, children are
like open canvas and life paints their life

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experiences, just paints these memories and
these pictures on their brain and that it

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can just go in different directions.
So would you be open to sharing,

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Like you mentioned that at a very
tender age of ten, you experienced something.

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So what was that pivotal moment?
Yeah, my dad is I mean,

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I would say my life right has
been an entrepreneur, and I think

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that he made some you know,
decisions that we know, he made some

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decisions that impacted you know, his
his business. And I think in looking

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back now, he was doing it
from he wanted to empower me, right,

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Like he wanted to teach me about
money, He wanted to teach me

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about responsibility and those types of things. And also now that I'm a parent,

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like a ten year old just doesn't
have the capacity right to understand all

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of that. And so I understand
where the message was coming from, right,

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It was coming from love, it
was coming from empowerment. And at

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ten years old, right, like
you pick up on energy, you pick

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up on not just words. Right. And so the message, the overall

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message that I received was like money
is a very serious thing, right,

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and so that is kind of what
I took moving forward it and it did

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help me, right, It helped
me, you know, with my career

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that I had. It helped me
with saving and investing, and also now

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knowing like, Okay, money isn't
serious, it's you know, it's meant

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to you know, we can have
fun with it. We can circulate it.

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We don't have to hoard it.
We don't have to you know,

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scrimp and save and save all of
it, you know, like it It's

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okay to circulate it and move it
around. And it likes to be loved

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on. And so I'm grateful for
that, you know, like I said,

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like, I'm grateful for the message
and also now understanding like I can

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have a different relationship with money.
M h. Absolutely, And what a

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beautiful way to put it. Erin
that you took the message and rather than

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just taking it as it came,
you evaluated it that how it would show

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up in your life. So you
mentioned that, you know, you have

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had career and money. Tell us
a little bit about that. Well,

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I mean, I think I absorbed
the message that I received for a long

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time, right, Like the message
that I changed, or the message that

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I received isn't the message that I
live by now. And that's only been

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over the last you know, four
or five years. But for a long

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time, it was like serious,
right, Like I say, you know,

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like I loved a checklist life,
right like you hear, like you

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go to college and you get good
grades, and you make money, and

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you say for retirement, and you
make sure your child's education is paid for,

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and you like, you know,
working on paying off the mortgage,

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like all of the things that Western
society kind of boasts about, like these

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are the things that will make you
happy, right And I did all of

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those things, and I did them
from a place of like inadequacy within myself.

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I did it from a place of
and not aware right like at the

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time, right like, I just
did it from the place of like if

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I do this, then I'll fill
X, right, and we know that

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like nothing will ever make you feel
any way, and so I kind of

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had checked all the boxes and then
I was like, well, wait a

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second, like I'm not very like
the I'm not exactly happy. You know.

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I was just living for that next
moment, and I think that you

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know, the illusion that like if
you have X amount of money, then

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you're going to feel safe, or
then you're going to feel fulfilled, or

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then you're going to feel happy like
that. I totally bought into that until

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I got to that place, and
then I realized like this isn't this isn't

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what I want for my life,
and so really starting to pick apart what

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do I want? How do I
want to live? How do I want

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to be with my money? And
you know, for a long time,

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I say like I did not feel
safe with money, right, Like I

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thought that if I could get to
a certain point, then I would feel

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safe. But I kept moving that
goalpost, right like we would get to

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a certain amount and then I would
then I would save more, right,

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And then what I realized was like, oh wait a second, Like moving

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the goalpost isn't changing anything, right, like this is and I don't think

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I had language for it at the
time, right, But like, this

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is an internal job. This is
something I've got to because no matter how

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much money you have, if you
continue to accumulate it and you still feel

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actually more fear is what I felt
than less fear. And so really working

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on that over the last several years
to really be at peace with money,

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to have a different relationship with money, you know, knowing money can come

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and go like that's okay too.
That kind of that has been definitely my

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growth of like using money, having
fun with money, things of that sort.

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Yeah, No, definitely you pointed
out a few good things, actually

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several that even though you reach the
goalpost and you'll dive into that a little

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bit, it didn't change anything because
that relationship with money was internal, not

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external. So tell us, like, you know, externally, when you

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mentioned that you reached a certain point
in career, what did that look like?

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I don't necessarily know if it was
careers. Much like at the time,

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I was working in my family's water
and wastewater construction business, so I

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was helping them, you know,
run you know, a forty plus year

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business, you know, with plenty
of employees and all of that. It

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was more so the dollar amount and
like assets and things of that sort,

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and realizing like, oh wait,
like we have more money now than we

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did five years ago, and I
still actually I feel more insecure, I

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feel more scared, I feel more
fearful. And so it was actually when

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my husband and I we lived in
Texas at the time, and we were

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flipping a house and I think I
had I never went to the doctor,

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but I think I had a panic
attack like I was having and even though

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we had money, we were making
money, like my body didn't feel that

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way right, like that fear of
like exchanging large sums of money and things

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of that sort. And so that's
when I really realized, like I've got

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to do something with my relationship with
money because as I can't continue like I

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think it was thirty I don't know, thirty eight, thirty nine, I

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can't continue to like live my life
for the next forty fifty years in this

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feeling a state of stress and fear
and worry. And yeah, it felt

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like sometimes all consuming is what it
felt like. M Yeah, that's very

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telling that if you're okay, I'd
love to do it. Little exploration of

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what you said that you had large
sums of money and that brought on more

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fear. And what do you think
was behind that? Yeah, I think

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subconsciously, I think a lot of
the things the messages that I received as

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a kid, right, like holding
on to money, like money is something

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to be you know, like it's
a serious thing. And I don't know,

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like at ten, like I don't
remember having those conversations, right,

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I remember certain events that occurred.
I remember how I probably I felt when

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my parents would fight about money,
right. And so for me, it

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was realizing that, you know,
and this takes slowing down, right,

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Like, I think that I've talked
to a lot of people that Workoholism isn't

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something that really like has talked about. I don't think a lot like in

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Western society, right, but we
use working a lot. It's as a

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way to, you know, cover
up some of those things that we feel

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about ourselves, whether it's in adequacy, whether it's fear around money, right

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Like, And so I was able
to slow down, and I was able

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to like start peeling apart this onion
and realizing like, oh, this is

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this goes deeper than like you know
my when I say, when it goes

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deeper. What I mean is like
it's it's not just like oh, me

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and money, you know kind of
need to like do some you know,

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thought work around it. Like this
is like in my box, my body

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does not feel safe, like being
hyper vigilant around money. And so yeah,

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really starting to do some somatic work
with money and things of that sort,

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because I was already doing the mindset
work, but things weren't shifting.

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And so then that's when I really
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start to, yeah, feel what
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years by working a lot, by
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way to cover up all of the
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you mentioned that you know you were

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feeling in the body. So let's
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our audiences as they're watching us,
they're thinking about it and exploring their relationship

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with money. So what are the
pointers? What are the some of the

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things that they can get started on
to figure out what kind of relationship do

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they have? Yeah, I think
just by you know, slowing down and

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asking yourself questions like how do I
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business owner, how do I feel

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when I look at my P and
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know, how do I feel if
you you know when it comes time for

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payroll? How do I feel when
you know the market if you're invested?

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I like tense up and I'm all
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this is just the way that the
markets go. Like how are you

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feeling in your body when you know
when your kid comes to you and asks

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you for something or it's considered a
large purchase, right, Like how do

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you feel when money is coming in? And how do you feel when money

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is I don't say coming in and
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this takes this takes some slowing down, right. I think we're where we

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how you know when I am I
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have, or do I think that
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wanting more from a place of like
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have more, give more, share
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some questions and getting curious is I
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that definitely makes sense. And here's
what I'll share that I remember like one

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of the times in my childhood where
my father had been caught in some family

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business and we had gone through some
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times, I remember how the situation
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and then how it impacted my perspective. And you are absolutely right,

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Like, you know, it's finding
about like doing that little research, being

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that journalist and investigating how your relationship
is with money. And so once let's

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say people find out what is the
relationship with money, what do they do

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after that? Yeah? So I
think one celebrating that, right, Like

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a little bit, right, Like
we can just celebrate like, oh,

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we've noticed what our relationship has been
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want to be with money? Right? Like? And I think, you

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know, I have lots of thoughts
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you know, we want to fill
abundant we want to but like if our

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body doesn't feel safe, we can't
think, you know, like mantras and

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you know, constantly repeat things if
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to have to play with different ways, right, Like maybe it's meditation,

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maybe it's breath work, maybe it's
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with when the feeling comes up,
right, Like, we aren't taught how

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to be with our feelings, and
if we are just sitting with our feelings,

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right like, literally an emotion passes
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but a lot of us feel it
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you can tap, there's lots of
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to release some of that because you
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and emotion, and sometimes they get
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say stuck, you know, because
that feels a little disempowering, but it

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just the energy hasn't moved, right, And sometimes we just need to move

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the energy. And so really,
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kind and compassionate with ourselves, right
because a lot of a lot of our

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relationship with money was formed at a
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caregivers or our parents, or by
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of our beliefs around money aren't even
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do I want my relationship to be
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want to feel on a daily basis
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yourself and also going back to what
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important to look into how you want
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when you have your core values,
not the definition of success as it has

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been outlined by your family, by
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your peers. Because I have so
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that I feel so behind, I
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we find out that are not even
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them. These are people who they
study doing it. Oh now they're VP

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the director and I'm only manager,
okay, So it's almost like you're not

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even comparing apples to apples. It's
comparing apples to oranges. And then that

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comparison can take the joy. As
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joy. I like what you mentioned
about having that compassion. So in your

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career, I recall you sharing that
you had been a financial planner at one

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point in time. So tell me
what led you to get into that and

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what led you to getting out of
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like my upbringing, like I wanted
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liked it. I liked the finance
part of it. When I say it

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was easy, like I thought I
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I was kind of going down that
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the sciences weren't necessarily like I didn't
enjoy that, but when I got

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into the finance part, like business, it was very I loved all of

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my classes. And so, you
know, empowering people obviously, you know,

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with their money and being able to
make decisions and all of that.

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you know how to manage your money and

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grow your money and all of that
like that was that was also a desire

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of mine, and so yeah,
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like a servant's heart and wanting to
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so financial planning, you know,
was was I really liked when I got

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into my courses and started taking them
and I enjoyed it. And so what

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you know, a lot of business
building, right is sometimes can be and

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it's different, right, I think
it's different for me now, but like

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back then, right, I totally
subscribed to like work hard, and I

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was working a lot of hours,
and even after five or six years in

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they had made some changes and with
like where the company was going, and

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I didn't know if I wanted to
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week. Now Aaron now knowing what
she knows now, right, like she

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could have made a lot of different
choices, but I kind of had burnt

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myself out, you know. And
I think because I was at that place

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of like getting to the like sufficiency
was not even in my vocabulary, right.

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It was always like when I get
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actually relax, then I can write. But as I already said, right,

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I kept moving the goalpost and so
that is probably one of the reasons

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where I just was like, I'm
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of it became for me like obviously
my awareness now right, like this was

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all internal, like it wasn't fun
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change in wanting like what do I
want to do? Like here we go

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back to evaluating your life, right, like valuating what success was like and

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not looking outside of myself of like
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like you were, we're teaching all
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save and all of these things,
and then yet like a lot of us

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are going to the bar on Friday, Like there's something you know that is

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not matching up here, right,
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You know? And so really just
deciding like what do I want My

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husband and I were thinking about,
you know, maybe having a kid,

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and so like did I want to
work that many hours? So it was

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really a point where like what do
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I did not want to do that. So yeah, so it sounds like

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it was a turning point in your
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did you decide to do? I
think I for like maybe a week or

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two, I did nothing. I
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then that's when my dad approached me
and said, in a very like nonchalant

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way, like, do you want
to come and help me? I have

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some you know, I need some
help with and you know, as a

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business owner, like there are things
in your business that you kind of like

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hold close to your vest right,
and so the he was like, you

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know, I want someone that I
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have someone look after some of the
things. And it started as very

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I say innocent in the sense of
like, hey, come and like help

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me with a couple of things.
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diving in and really, okay,
there's lots of changes that need to be

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made. And so yeah, part
time turned into full time because here again

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I hadn't you know, sat with
and dealt with any of the internal stuff

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for myself, and so kind of
diving in and really helping. And it

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was during the two thousand and nine
and construction and all the things, so

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diving in and really, yeah,
making a lot of changes in there,

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got it so you helped your father
and then post that what helped you kind

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of get into the place where you
are at right now? Yeah, like

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you at the very first question you
asked, like right, like what you

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know? I started listening to a
podcast and just devoured her and started and

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I enrolled in her group program and
just started getting coached and changing because the

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real estate that flipping the house,
that was a pivotal moment for me,

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like I don't want to live like
this, and so getting coached and working

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on that, and then over the
years, then deciding I wanted to quit

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my family's construction business, and then
building up my coaching practice, and then

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deciding I just want to take some
time off because I had never really not

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worked, and so that was that
was what started as three months ended up

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being two and a half years,
I guess. And so during that time

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off is probably has been my most
profound because it has given me the time

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to reflect, It has given me
stillness, it has given me I've gotten

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so much clarity because I've had this
space to really like what do I want?

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You know, I knew I wanted
to help people financially in coaching,

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but like, how did I want
to do it, and what did I

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want it to look? I can
just allowing myself that time to play,

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like you said, you know,
you're asking you when I was a kid.

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So being able to travel and spend
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that I had always had on the
like at some point in the future list

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you know, doing that over the
last two years that has probably gotten me

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to where I am now. So
you mentioned about said something like, you

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know, rather than wait for the
future, why not implement it today?

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Because even in the future, all
you have is present. So you talk

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often about three D and five D. So can you tell us a little

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bit about what is three D aspect
of the finances and five D? And

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how can you blend the two together? Yeah, the three D, Like

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I just made up the term because
I'm like, people keep coming to me

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with these things and I'm like,
okay, So the three D like the

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three dimension right, like what we
can see and I know, like you

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know, like you think about your
money or your taxes are investing, and

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I know that you know you can't
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are the things that you do on
the material plane right on planet Earth.

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But then the five D is like
how you feel. And so old Aaron

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was really good in the three D, but her five D muscle was not

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built up at all, right,
Like she still felt a lot of fear.

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She still felt you know, insecure
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she had. And so when I
talk about like blending the two, like

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I mean, I'm sure we've all
met somebody who has millions and millions of

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dollars and they still are either really
unhappy, unfulfilled, or you know,

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fearful right to let go of some
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say blending those, what I mean
is having a healthy relationship with your money,

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like how you feel with your money, and also being a good steward

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right of your money in your and
being knowledgeable about your finances. And so

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those are what I mean when I
say the two together. Okay, so

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now you know, let's say somebody
has done the checklist in the sense that

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like they know what is their value
in their lives, how do they want

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to live so and they know what
kind of relationship it is. So can

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you give a little few tips around
how can they have a strong relationship with

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money where they're not feeling insecure where
they're feeling secure with what they have along

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with because and to feel that security, you need a couple of things.

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So it's not just having like,
Okay, I'm good with money money circulating.

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It's also important to have a certain
amount of money that helps you live

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your life absolutely and at the same
time be secure with that. It's okay

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if I'm circulating it, if I
want to go on a vacation, doesn't

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matter what kind of vacation. It
depends on the style you want to live.

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You're okay with spending that, then
you're not coming into this nervousness or

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anything like that, because now you're
seeing that credit card bill, So how

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can you achieve that? Yeah,
I think, well, a lot of

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any money is just a reflection of
us, right, Like that's what I've

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really had to learn. Right,
So you're feeling inadequate about your money,

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there's some inadequacy that you feel within
right, Like you're feeling like money isn't

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good enough. There's some not good
enoughness that you feel within right, And

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so I always go back to,
like, how do you actually feel about

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yourself? Have you nurtured and taken
care of that inner child? Right?

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That feels not good enough that you're
comparing you know, you mentioned earlier about

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like we are comparing ourselves too,
and the brain naturally wants to do that.

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But what I always suggest is like
compare yourself to how you were yesterday,

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to how you were two years ago, to how you were ten years

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ago, right, like are you
evolving? Are you? Have you grown?

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In most always the answer is yes, right, and so with your

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with the it's it's not a sexy
answer, but it's like, how how

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do you feel about yourself? Have
you done some of that internal work and

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of you know, loving yourself unconditionally? Right like because a lot of us

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grew up with parents that that loved
us conditionally. If you do good in

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school, then you get X or
you know, and so have you given

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yourself the love? Have you allowed
yourself to play and enjoy? Like we

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were sent here to have fun and
enjoy ourselves. Life does not have to

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be a struggle. It doesn't have
to be hard. Yes, there's effort

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right in anything, but we're not
here to like trudge through and get to

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some point and then we're done.
And so how much you know, how

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much fun are you having? How
much goodness? I think it's also like

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what is our capacity to receive?
Right? Like we we have a you

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know, in the in the somatic
world, like they talk about window of

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tolerance, right like, there is
a window of tolerance that we also have

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for receiving, right like how good
can we allow it to get? So

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those are those are things that I
would start with of asking yourself like something

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is simple. You know, people
always say like you, I don't know

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if you've ever noticed, you go
out to dinner and someone they're like fighting

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over the bill, right like,
I'll pay all. But it's just like

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why can't you just you know,
like even just something something as simple as

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that, if your friend asks you
and they want to pay, then stop

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fighting, like receive that. I
think a lot of us have some difficulty

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with receiving. Yes, I think
some most of us do. And that

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is very true. And that brings
us back to what we started out that

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starting out with the kindness circle.
And what happens is that then you open

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your heart up and you open up
yourself to life and very quick story like

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yesterday, what happened was I had
a lot of a couple of systems breaking

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down. You know, a lot
of clients demanding attention. And what I've

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done is packed in intentional breaks throughout
the day. I took them, even

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though I was sweating it, but
I took it. And it's about being

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intentional about it. And sometimes it
may not play out as you want,

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but if you do it. And
then at the end of the day,

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I decided I'm going to call it
today. Yes, I've got a meeting.

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I'm going to have it over the
phone. And guess what I heard

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this bitter pattern of rain. The
skies had opened up, and I wanted

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to feel some rain drops on my
face. I opened the door, just

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walk out and there was this beautiful
rainbow that I haven't seen in such a

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long time. So what a beautiful
way to end the day. So,

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as you're saying, erin opening ourselves
to life, and you'll be surprised what

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life can bring for you. So
Aaron, share with us. You know

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how you are helping entrepreneurs now,
how people can connect with you. Yeah,

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they if they want to work with
me one on one, I definitely

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invite that. And or I am
currently having a small group cohort where I

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talk about like the three D and
the five D of money, where I

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bring in, you know, a
bookkeeper and a CPA and financial advisor so

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that you can ask questions and you
know, really understand that part of the

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of the money as well as you
know, the the five D part,

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right, like how we feel with
money, and we didn't talk too much

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about it, but I do.
I do help with you know, human

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design and like how we actually are
meant to move through the world. And

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so those are those are the two
ways that if someone wants to work with

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me, they can do that and
then they can you know, on my

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website or they can find me on
Instagram. I'm there some times at the

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Aaron Gray And could you share with
as your upside please? Yeah, it's

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generate a life well lived dot com
And what would you say is your vision

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for the coming years? Two?
Oh, that's a good one because it's

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like multifaceted. I think, you
know, to help as many entrepreneurs really

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change their relationship with money and feel
safe in their bodies. I think the

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world could use more people that have
money, have fun with money, give

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money, share money, and so
helping entrepreneurs have a lot of fun and

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have an amazing relationship with money as
well as bringing in as many facilitators as

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I can within the cohort to help
them and you know, grow their business

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and yeah, collaborate. That's beautiful. Thank you for joining us erin you

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know cleally enjoyed our conversation and dear
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