April 29, 2025

Power of kindness and Coaching Community

Power of kindness and Coaching Community

Ready to scale your coaching without losing depth or integrity? On Beyond Confidence, Divya Parekh chats with group coaching expert Chris Williams to reveal how to create impactful, scalable programs without burnout. Expect clear insights, practical...

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Ready to scale your coaching without losing depth or integrity? On Beyond Confidence, Divya Parekh chats with group coaching expert Chris Williams to reveal how to create impactful, scalable programs without burnout. Expect clear insights, practical strategies, and mindset shifts to help you serve, scale, and succeed—sustainably. Tune in and elevate your coaching game.

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This is beyond confidence and now here's your host, W Park.

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Good morning, It's Tuesday morning, and I'm.

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Thrilled to be here with you, of course, because you,

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my dear audience, are the life of the show. And

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thank you for those emails and messages that you keep

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sending it to us, because that's what keeps me coming

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back week after week. And I want to share the

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kind of circle story today. So somebody shared that it

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was a very interesting story and we are just going

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to call her Vicki. So Vicki shared that on Valentine's Day,

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you know, it was just this past month. What happened

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was she had done a surprise and didn't tell her husband,

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and guess what he had done a surprise as well.

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So then what she did was he was so enthusiastic

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and he shared it with her for the first verse

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before she could share. So she was so kind she

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canceled her appointment and reservations, like you know, I think,

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so they had a spoty or not sure all of

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the details, and what a beautiful gesture of kindness. It's

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not about I did or you did, so just wanted

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to share that with you and remember to keep that

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kindness circle going, spending that hour of your time every

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month with no strings attached. And I will tell you

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whenever you do even a small kind act for someone.

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You feel good.

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So you're not doing it for them, You're doing it

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for yourself. And for those of you who have got

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her books expert to influencer and the Entrepreneur's gotten and others,

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we thank you and keep the word going. And if

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you have not been love for you to get it

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because partial profits go to keyboard dot org. Because I

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do believe entrepreneurs are very special. And let's bring in

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our guest. So I want to share with you that

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Chris is a very special person. We connected on LinkedIn

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and his approach is completely different. So Chris will usually

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start out from the beginning, which is of course childhood

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for everyone. Do you recall a moment or a person

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from your childhood or from your youth that left a

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positive mark on you?

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Oh? Wow, yes, absolutely, my yeah, Oh my gosh, this

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is so fun. My best friend growing up was named

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Tommy Picchello, and wow, I've never talked about him on

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a show before. Tommy and I grew up like one

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house down from each other, and him and his family

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were just so kind to me. And Tommy's no longer

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with us. He passed a few years ago, way too young,

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and I know, yeah, and he like left such and

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hum and his family just left such a positive impact

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on my life. I think about them all the time.

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And Tommy grew up like we all do, and he

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left an awesome positive impact in our community here in Memphis, Tennessee,

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where were based. Just a super cool guy. And honestly

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it was because they were just kind, busy people like

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we all are, lots going on, but kind, and I

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always felt appreciated and loved and welcomed in their space,

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and that was really great.

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Yeah, it's amazing how kindness can leave a mark on you.

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And just as you mentioned that, it reminded me of

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one of my school teachers. She was I think so

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a sub and she had just come and probably she

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had taught us, maybe just for a few months and

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the whole and probably I think since grade or third grade,

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I don't remember, but her kindness touched us. And then

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later a few years later down the road, I found

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out that she had passed away very young, and I

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still remember her to this day. And it's amazing how

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kindness will remain in your heart. So tell us, like,

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you know what you interested in something specifics as you

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were growing up.

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Oh my gosh, yeah, so we grew up like skateboards,

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BMX bikes, play in the woods. You know, it was

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it was fun, it was great. My family was hit

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or miss on being great. They weren't. They weren't the best,

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but they but I had some I had some great

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folks around who were just super awesome. And kindness has

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stuck with me, really has. I appreciate that. Thanks for

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bringing this up. This is really.

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Nice, absolutely, and how wonderful that you're talking about, you know,

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playing in the woods, because I cannot find anything more

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powerful then commuting with nature. And when you communicate with nature.

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I learned every single thing in just a very quick story.

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I was just at on the weekend at the dealership

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getting my oil changed, and of course it was quite

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cold that day, and I'm like, okay, they're going to

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take a couple of hours. Let me just kind of

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step out, and these are still all great trees bare,

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and I saw this cardinal just sitting there, that bright

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spot of color, and my creativity just got sparked, and

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I wrote a poem, So tell us, like, you know,

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as you grew up in the nature and professionally, where

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did your interest take you?

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It stayed with adventure and nature. It really has so

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I know. I know what I do for a living

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is coach other coaches and experts how to build these

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high ticket masterminds your coaching programs. But that was driven

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out of my love for adventure in nature. My entrepreneurial

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journey followed a track of wanting more free time and

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more space, more opportunity to take myself and our family

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and friends out for adventures. I freaking love it. I

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love community, and I think what I keep doing as

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an entrepreneur is I keep looking for ways to grow

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in ways that builds more community for ourselves and others

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and freedom. I happen to love adventure and outdoors, but

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some people love different things. They love spending more time

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with friends, love curating their wine collection, love pursuing art,

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whatever it is. I just want people to have the

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freedom and the community to thrive, and that's what really

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is meaningful to me. I have one tattoo to bea

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you don't know's. I have one tattoo with the inside

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of my left bicep and it's the word free because

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that has just been such a meaningful word to me

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in my life. Is just pursuing freedom and remaining free

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with the choices we make on a daily basis.

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Absolutely, So tell us, like, when you talk about it adventures,

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what kind of adventures do you like?

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Oh, that's funny, this is going to be funny. We

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love adventures adventures, so we love anything that's out in

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the wild. So We've done lots of electric skateboarding. I've

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done a tremendous amount of high alpine mountaineering and some

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very cold alpine snowy, icy regions, lots of ice climbing.

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We've free dived in so many oceans around the world.

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We've been free diving with sharks multiple times. Gosh, lots

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of surfing adventures. The two times I thought we were

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lots of traveling around the world, we backpacked through Europe

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with our five kids. I mean, we just we like

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to play, and we like to meet new people that

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are not like us. And most of our adventures, even

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though we like say, oh we're going to go to

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this location so we can dive with sharks out in

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the scivic somewhere or whatever. It's like, the adventure is

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the thing we're googling and figuring out how to do.

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But the adventure always takes us to a place and

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with people that we have nothing in common with, and

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we end up falling in love with culture and community

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and people all over the place because it turns out

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we have everything in common with other humans on this planet.

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We all want the best for our families, the best

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for ourselves. We all want to be healthy. We want

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to be in great places and positions where we can

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do the things that create opportunity for us and those

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we love. And it's just wonderful to get to actually

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see new people doing that in different ways.

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Absolutely, And.

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What you're sharing is that what you can do and

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the way and how you do one thing, you do

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the rest of the things as well. So you talked

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about adventures, and you know there are so many people

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and I'm not saying everybody got to do adventures.

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It's basically whatever brings your joy.

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As you mentioned earlier, the key is that you don't

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let the obstacles.

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Deter you or stop you.

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Yes, they can delay, they can cause the delay, but

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they cannot deter you. So what I'm hearing is that,

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like even with kids you are, what you're doing is

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you're making them part of your adventures. It's not like

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just so I'm going, you know, it's you and your

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partner or you're just going on a guys trip or

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anything like that. You're making that whole family event and

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they're growing up seeing that. So what a beautiful lesson.

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So what would you tell a lot of professionals and

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entrepreneurs like, oh, you know, my kids are young and

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it's just a hassle, and how can I go about it?

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Before I before I say that answer, that's my perspective

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on this. Div Let me just say how interesting this

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show is. I'm lucky enough to be on a lot

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of stages in a lot of podcasts, and you're asking

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questions that nobody ever asks. This is really great. So

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all you lucky listeners out there listening to Divia, I'm

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super thrilled. This is so fun. Keep listening to more episodes.

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This is super cool. Okay, so the like, I really

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appreciate that. Yeah, really unique, this is this is great.

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So many so many podcasters the same old stuff, you know,

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same old questions. This is really great. So how have

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we what was a question, how have we incorporated kids

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and and that sort of thing family into what we do? Yep,

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Okay to two directions here. One, I personally am not

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a fan of working with family or friends. It just

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in my experience it's it creates more times than not,

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more often than not, it creates a lot of heartache

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and hardship and conflict and things like that. That just

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puts more strain of friendships. And family already have enough

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relational dynamics to put enough strain on that relationship and

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it can go really well, but there's already enough tensions

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around that. I think it's easier to keep that separate

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from business. So that's been our choice as a family.

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That's what we've done. So Jill and I don't work together,

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our kids don't work in our business, and we don't

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work with our extended family. That's just been our rule

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and it's served as well. I know some people do

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it very successfully. Maybe it's me.

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I think that's a golden rule to have because I'll

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tell you my son was well, he's even now very

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tech savvy, and he used to help me out and

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he was like, yeah, I used to help me out.

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Okay, good, Like we're working differently. I agree about that.

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But you know, as you know, traveling and being in

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part of other cultures around the world, a lot of

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cultures do that extremely well. But for some reason here

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in our American culture, more often than not it goes south.

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there's some families to do it very very well. Okay. Now,

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from how we incorporate family and friends and kids whatever

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into other things, is we just treat everybody like we

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want to be treated. I think that's like the golden rule, right,

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doing to others as you want to have them doing

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to you. And I'm not saying we're saints and we're perfect.

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coffee and somewhere we've never been to before. I people

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are people. They just want to be able to say

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hey and have you find out something interesting about them.

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you can take that theme and put it into how

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you do a family holiday, how you do a major trip,

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how you plan an anniversary. Like the example you gave

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about Valentine's Day a few minutes ago, that couple was

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kind enough to each other to treat the other person

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like they'd want to be treated. What a beautiful example.

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be treated. And when you're treating people, whether it's in

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person or online, it's not different. So a lot of

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our listeners, you know, they may be thinking, Okay, I'm

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a toxic box. Because when I'm coaching people, whether it's

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entrepreneurs or executives or leaders or corporate professionals.

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this toxic box? I want to leave. So they're looking

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for jobs, they're looking to transition. And one thing I

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keep on hearing from so.

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Many of my clients that oh, you know that posting

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and that time and se and hashtag it just kills

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my creativity. And I know Chris, you have found a

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beautiful work around it. So why don't you share with

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our audience in details who were there? How can they

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show up on any social media platform and build those

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meaningful connections.

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Oh, this is so much easier than people make it.

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I know people make this so complicated, and I'm sorry

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for those of you who feel like, oh, it's so complicated,

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because it doesn't have to be. Number One, get somebody

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to help you. If that's a team member, a VA,

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another outsourced company, whatever, Get somebody to help you with

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all the things you don't want to do. So if

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you don't like creating posts, if you don't like doing

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podcast editing, if you don't like having to follow up

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with people, if the details aren't your jam, it's okay,

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it's not my thing either. I like relationships with people.

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me do the stuff that I think we should be doing.

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created my own social media posts, like the creative, the artwork,

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the copy, all that kind of stuff in a very

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long time. Because your team member can take a podcast

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episode like this and create one hundred amazing posts for

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whatever social platform they want to just from this, so

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we will take something like this and repurpose it. That's

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Number one. Get somebody to help you with the parts

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that you don't love doing. Focus on what you love doing.

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I like personally the part where it's really good relationships.

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So if we're communicating with somebody on LinkedIn or Facebook

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or Instagram or whatever, I really like personal interaction. I

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like finding out how are things actually going for you,

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what's working, what's not? Tell me more. I like hearing

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that we diby. I think you and I met. We've

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been referred by several people back and forth, but I

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think we met on one of our community group sort

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of roles. That was a month. Yeah, you see that process.

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people who are meeting as a group coach nation is

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I like actually interacting with everybody and seeing tell me

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what's working, what's not, what problems can we solve as

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a group, Like, let's get to it. So for me,

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the reason it works that the details are not as

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important as people think. The reason it works is because

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I actually enjoy and practice getting to know real people,

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and when you do that, you learn what they need

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and how you can help, and you learn who they

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are and the pain that they've gone through or the

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joys that they've had, and where to kind of orient

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that relationship if you can help them, help them. If

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you can't, now you know enough to probably refer them

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to somebody else that you know they probably could help them.

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Yeah, very powerful, And I saw that, and that's.

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So I was very pleasantly surprised because when we were

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in the conversation, Chris Will was genuinely interested in how

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he could help us. And that goes back to wherever

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you are at, whether you're an entrepreneur or a professional,

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don't think about what the other person could do for you,

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because when you're thinking, oh, what's in it for me, like, oh,

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I'm sending all the messages, think about like you know,

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if you're on their LinkedIn profile, just don't look at

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the title and all that. Go down and look at

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what kind of posts they've posted, look at their about section.

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And see what's passionate.

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About that, and see what's really resonating with you, you know,

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being authentic, being genuine, and when you seek out and

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then be clear about your intentions so so many times

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what happens is that people are hesitant to reach out

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to others. What would you recommend to people? I believe

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that it's important to state your intention and expectation upfront,

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so people know.

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You know what to expect. What are your thoughts?

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I think reaching out to people is a critical step

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of human relationship. Let's just start there. If you're at

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a neighborhood party or a celebration a friend is having,

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and there's a group of people there, you go up

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and you say, hey, I'm I'm Chris. I'm like, how

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are you, where do you live, where are you from,

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how do you know the host? Whatever? You just have

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conversation that I'm an introvert dso and it's hard for

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me sometimes to go to parties. It's kind of emotionally exhausting,

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you know, all that kind of stuff you introvert's not

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talking about. But we have to get out there and

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do the thing. And once we get to know a

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few people, it makes the room so much easier to

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hang out in. So Number one, just treat the people

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online in your business relationships just like you would anybody else.

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Just get to know people. And two, let that relationship develop. Yeah. Sure,

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if you're reaching out to someone on LinkedIn, it's probably

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not because you're hoping they'll come to your neighbor's birthday party,

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because there's a professional relationship going on here, right, But

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there's still humans. It's still okay to say, hey, I

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saw you were in the aerospace industry. Super fascinating, love

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what you do out there, can't wait to see the

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next twenty years old for all of us. Thanks for

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the connection, and just leave it that. They're going to

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respond back with, oh my gosh, it's so great to

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meet you. Looks like you're in the coaching space. That's

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super cool. Tell me what you do. They're gonna say that,

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and you're going to say, well, we help people in

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the aerospace community figure out how to climb the corporate ladder.

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No way, that's super cool, and you can say, so

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how about you, like, how's it working, what's working what's

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not in your industry? Not even specifically for them, because

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they might not be shy about talking about what's working.

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What's not is people try to move up the ladder

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in the aerospace world. They'll start giving you insights and

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then all of a sudden, you get a chance to say,

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and how's that working for you? And you might have

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a coaching client in just a few minutes. It's not

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that hard. It's just real people talk, real people a big.

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Deal, absolutely, and that's the keys the real people deal. So, okay,

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you talked about the first couple of steps, any of

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the tips on how to continue building that relationship.

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I just let it go where it goes. We're constantly

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looking here's what we're looking to do in a relationship

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for professional relationships. Right, Yes, you're on LinkedIn. We'll just

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talk LinkedIn for a second. Can be Facebook, Instagram, doesn't matter,

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We're here for a reason. Typically LinkedIn is for connections

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is right, Facebook and Instagram might be a little more

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oriented towards they just want to scroll and entertain themselves

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for an hour, So can LinkedIn be? There's lots of

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great business conversations on the other platforms too. Once that

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conversation starts, like I just kind of set up something

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simple like that, then it's just a matter of if

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you want to talk to people in the aerospace community.

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Just making that one up. You're a coach in that space.

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You can find people in the aerospace community, you can

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start that kind of relationship and you're just listening for Hey,

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what are the trends that I could help with? That'll

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give you a lot of information for your next LinkedIn post.

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and you could talk about that. They'd give you a

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thing for a podcast, it could give you stuff for

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blogs or whatever. It also gives you a chance to

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ask that person after they give you a little insight, okay,

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I understand a little more, how's that going for you?

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And then you get to talk about them specifically, what's working,

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what's not and if you see them say hey, it's

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frustrating out here. It is what it is. It's a

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really competitive industry. I wish there was a clearer path

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something like that. Then you just simply say, hey, you

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know what, this is what I coach in. Would a

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one on one call be helpful. I'd love to just

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spend a few minutes and if I can point in

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the right direction, I absolutely will. You'll be shocked how

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many people say yes, and you get them on a

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call and you find out should she help them right

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there on the call, or are there somebody you should

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actually start a client relationship with, work with the long

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term to help them achieve their goals. And when you

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see the opportunity to say, you know, this is what

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I do, would love to help you, how do we

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go forward? You can absolutely do that and you can

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make those connections happen. I think that's a really important

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piece to understand. Just follow that thread.

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Absolutely what a powerful way to approach it.

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So what I'm hearing is approach with curiosity, just like

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as if you were in a neighborhood party or a

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barbecue or whatever you are, Like, we used to have

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so many, oh gosh, some good memories. So when you

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approach with curiosity and you're there to genuinely learn about

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that person, then what happens is that you share that

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intention upfront that like, hey, listen, I'm just here not

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for sales, nothing for I mean, you're not sharing, but

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like you know you and it will show your words,

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and when you have that conversation, it's just like, let's

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see where it goes. And that's what you do, Chris,

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And like you know, see what happened, Like you know,

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we connected and I realized, like, yep, Chris would be

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a perfect candidate for my podcast, and opportunities arise organically, and.

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I'm so great, You're so great.

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This is a great connection. I'm so glad you asked

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because I wouldn't have known that we could have this

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conversation if you hadn't asked. So always, everybody just ask people.

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It's okay, And so many times what happens is that

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people get in their own way.

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It's more in their head. Oh if I ask, what

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is the other person going to think? What would you

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advise them?

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First? Ask what you can do for them, Ask how

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you can help them, listen to them, understand them, and

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then you're free to ask for Hey, would you mind

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doing this? Here's a cool thing. Remember this if you're

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asking someone to be on your podcast, if you're asking

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for someone to be your client, if you're asking someone

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to whatever, like help you move because they have a

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pickup truck and you need somebody with a pickup truck.

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Asks come on a scale of how helpful they are

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to both parties or just one party. So, for instance,

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asking someone to be in a podcast is often really

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helpful for both parties because we all get to get

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more exposure do all that kind of stuff. Right, Asking

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someone to be your client is helpful to both parties. Yes,

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they're gonna pay you, but you're going to help them

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overcome something. On the other hand, asking someone can I

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can you help me move something with your pickup truck

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is really more one sided. So maybe it's hey, would

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you help me with something your pickup truck and I'd

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love to buy you a lunch is a way to like,

461
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you know, work that out, but always make sure it's

462
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two sided and balanced and everybody wins.

463
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Yeah, it's basically what you're at saying, is that move

464
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beyond transactional. Just don't think what's in it for me

465
00:26:04.680 --> 00:26:08.079
and what they can do for me, rather than approach

466
00:26:08.160 --> 00:26:11.400
what could you do for them? And so many times,

467
00:26:11.440 --> 00:26:13.960
you know you'll be surprised. You may think, oh, you know,

468
00:26:14.039 --> 00:26:16.440
that person is like so high up, what could I

469
00:26:16.559 --> 00:26:19.279
do for them? And sometimes it can be as simple

470
00:26:19.319 --> 00:26:24.279
as hopping on their post, liking it and leaving a

471
00:26:24.319 --> 00:26:28.640
genuine comment and even endorsing them. So there can be

472
00:26:28.720 --> 00:26:31.440
little things you could even kind of share, like you know,

473
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one of the things that I've done is that has

474
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helped me, is that like, hey, this is my list

475
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of connections, and some connections are LinkedIn connections. I may

476
00:26:43.240 --> 00:26:46.079
not know them as well, but I'm happy to introduce

477
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to you. Now where it goes, I don't know, but

478
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happy to make connections. And sometimes, you know, people respond,

479
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sometimes they don't. So there are ways you can do

480
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things for others. Now, let's say you know people have

481
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formed the connection and we've talked about one on one.

482
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How about building a community on these social media platforms.

483
00:27:09.480 --> 00:27:10.920
How can people go about it?

484
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Because so many times, unfortunately there are people who talk

485
00:27:16.039 --> 00:27:20.279
big but don't deliver. How can people sift through it

486
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and know who's genuine and who's not?

487
00:27:23.039 --> 00:27:25.759
Okay, that's actually a good question. How do you see

488
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the real people? I wish there was a clearer way

489
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to do this. I look for testimonials, reviews, that sort

490
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of thing. Even on something like LinkedIn, you can have

491
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people if you want to be seen as an expert.

492
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I actually haven't even checked my LinkedIn for this. I'm

493
00:27:44.319 --> 00:27:48.079
just I know this is real in our LinkedIn or

494
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anybody else LinkedIn. I know there's a section where you

495
00:27:50.319 --> 00:27:53.400
can leave comments about someone and say here's here's what

496
00:27:53.440 --> 00:27:56.160
my experience with this person. That's a great place to

497
00:27:56.200 --> 00:27:59.519
have people who are fans of yours leave comments for you. Again,

498
00:27:59.680 --> 00:28:02.519
I have no idea if there's any comments in my

499
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LinkedIn or not. I haven't even checked. But things like that.

500
00:28:05.440 --> 00:28:08.039
There's also ways like on our website, the group coach

501
00:28:08.160 --> 00:28:13.359
nation dot com website, we let our clients leave testimonials

502
00:28:14.039 --> 00:28:16.920
about their experience a group coach Nation. I look for

503
00:28:16.960 --> 00:28:19.839
that kind of stuff. I look for social proof, not

504
00:28:19.880 --> 00:28:23.480
just a good website or a big promise. But other

505
00:28:23.519 --> 00:28:27.160
people said, yeah, this is really great because there are

506
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people who are very good marketers, but you know, maybe

507
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not delivering exactly what they promised, and that's an unfortunate thing.

508
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And I think, truly, Debiya, I think a lot of

509
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those people mean really well, and maybe they get overwhelmed

510
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with the workload or they just don't quite know how

511
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to deliver what they promise. I don't think most of

512
00:28:47.079 --> 00:28:50.240
them are really bad people, but it's unfortunate that people

513
00:28:50.519 --> 00:28:52.680
get hurt out there in the coaching space or in

514
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any space.

515
00:28:54.839 --> 00:28:57.920
Absolutely no, you're right. In the market, it's not that

516
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people don't want to deliver. Usually eighty to ninety percent

517
00:29:01.480 --> 00:29:06.359
of people do want a deliver and so thank you

518
00:29:06.359 --> 00:29:08.799
for sharing that those are some of the good ways.

519
00:29:08.880 --> 00:29:14.119
And then in your journey, what would you say at

520
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the top five etiquette rules for online because so many

521
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times people are like you know, you can see that

522
00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:25.440
they've seen the message, whether it's LinkedIn or social like

523
00:29:25.480 --> 00:29:28.400
you know, Instagram or Facebook message or in everything different,

524
00:29:28.799 --> 00:29:31.720
and then they don't respond even if they have given

525
00:29:31.839 --> 00:29:37.119
their word. So to me, here's the thing, like what

526
00:29:37.160 --> 00:29:39.559
you're doing when nobody is seeing, or what you're doing

527
00:29:39.559 --> 00:29:43.519
when everybody's seeing, that doesn't have to be a difference.

528
00:29:43.799 --> 00:29:46.440
I'd love to hear from you. What are those three

529
00:29:46.480 --> 00:29:48.920
to four or five? Like, whatever you think at the top.

530
00:29:48.759 --> 00:29:51.119
Etiquet rules, I'll see how many I can think of it.

531
00:29:51.200 --> 00:29:53.839
I know of a couple of my life. The first

532
00:29:53.839 --> 00:29:55.759
one is do what they're going to do, be honest,

533
00:29:56.079 --> 00:29:58.720
all right. If you're an expert, it's something, say you're

534
00:29:58.720 --> 00:30:00.799
an expert at something, it's okay to say that. If

535
00:30:00.839 --> 00:30:03.359
you're not an expert at something, then don't talk about

536
00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:05.839
that thing. It's not your lane. And you don't have

537
00:30:05.880 --> 00:30:08.599
to be an expert in everything. We're all grown ups here,

538
00:30:09.119 --> 00:30:12.039
and we know that nobody can be good at everything.

539
00:30:12.759 --> 00:30:15.960
I am so not good at most things. So I

540
00:30:16.000 --> 00:30:18.480
talk about what I'm good at, what i'm an expert at,

541
00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:20.720
and I don't talk about the things I'm not good at.

542
00:30:20.960 --> 00:30:23.319
That's number one. Just be who you are. Number two.

543
00:30:24.359 --> 00:30:30.839
Use a professional writer or something like an AI chat, GPT, claude,

544
00:30:30.839 --> 00:30:33.880
whatever you want to use to help you write your

545
00:30:34.039 --> 00:30:38.599
posts or communicate your ideas. Unless you are a professional

546
00:30:38.599 --> 00:30:44.400
writer already, Here's why you're really awesome. Your clients really

547
00:30:44.480 --> 00:30:48.319
need you. You're doing you and them a disservice if

548
00:30:48.359 --> 00:30:50.359
you just try to hack your way through this thing

549
00:30:51.200 --> 00:30:55.079
at this point in time. There are free or almost

550
00:30:55.079 --> 00:30:58.839
free options out there that can get such great communication

551
00:30:59.279 --> 00:31:02.200
and help you say the right things to your audience.

552
00:31:02.640 --> 00:31:07.079
Learn how to do that. It will really really work. Okay.

553
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I to the to the point where I have several

554
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people in my world that I lean in on quite

555
00:31:13.680 --> 00:31:18.240
frequently to actually get like what's the right thing to say?

556
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And on that On that note, true, like I would say,

557
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the first thing is be honest, be who you are, right.

558
00:31:24.279 --> 00:31:28.000
That's absolutely number one. Number two, make sure you have

559
00:31:28.880 --> 00:31:34.519
a structure that allows you to actually, like really do

560
00:31:34.640 --> 00:31:38.799
a good job communicating your ideas and your topics, so

561
00:31:39.160 --> 00:31:43.400
extremely important. Amy Yamada a M Y and her muspell

562
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her last name y am A d A. Amy Yamada

563
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has a shameless plug here for Amy. She's freaking awesome

564
00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:54.920
with this. She has a very simple system that you

565
00:31:54.960 --> 00:31:57.880
can buy that allows you to put a little bit

566
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of detail in about who you want to serve, what

567
00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:03.920
market you're after basically, and what you do, and it

568
00:32:04.000 --> 00:32:08.000
asks some questions. It takes like five minutes, and it

569
00:32:08.039 --> 00:32:13.039
gives you like emails and social media posts and ideas

570
00:32:13.119 --> 00:32:15.720
and what I give you so much around what you

571
00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:19.440
could be doing for your market. So google Ami Yamata.

572
00:32:19.480 --> 00:32:22.680
There's not that many Amy Yamada's out there, and reach

573
00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:24.519
out to her because she has a great tool set

574
00:32:24.559 --> 00:32:27.160
for that. That'd be a number two. Number three when

575
00:32:27.160 --> 00:32:30.319
it comes to actually communicating well out there online, one

576
00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:32.480
of my top things, and I'll leave it at three,

577
00:32:33.200 --> 00:32:38.160
is follow up. Frequently people will make a post, they'll

578
00:32:39.039 --> 00:32:42.640
DM a bunch of people whatever, and then that process

579
00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:47.359
gets kind of complicated because if you've DMed twenty new

580
00:32:47.400 --> 00:32:51.480
contacts for the past ten weeks, now we got two

581
00:32:51.599 --> 00:32:54.720
hundred people, and a lot of those might not get

582
00:32:54.759 --> 00:32:56.519
back to you. But let's say one hundred of them

583
00:32:56.559 --> 00:32:59.440
get back to you. Now you're in a hundred conversations.

584
00:33:00.359 --> 00:33:03.839
Have a spreadsheet or something a tool like flow chat.

585
00:33:04.319 --> 00:33:06.799
Look up flow chat telling Chris Williams sent You've told

586
00:33:06.839 --> 00:33:08.519
them Amy, and modest. I think both of these give

587
00:33:08.519 --> 00:33:10.000
you a discount. By the way, if you're telling Chris

588
00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:12.799
Williams sent you, we know the flow chat creators really

589
00:33:12.839 --> 00:33:14.799
really well. We've used flow chat many times as well.

590
00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:18.640
Blow Chat is a software that allows you to automate

591
00:33:19.160 --> 00:33:22.599
and keep up with the direct messages on multiple social

592
00:33:22.599 --> 00:33:25.200
media platforms, all the big ones, and it works really

593
00:33:25.240 --> 00:33:28.400
really well, and they have training around that so that

594
00:33:28.559 --> 00:33:31.519
follow through process. You've got to be authentic. You got

595
00:33:31.559 --> 00:33:33.880
to have good copy and good writing, So be authentic,

596
00:33:33.880 --> 00:33:36.920
guts on you get good copy and good writing. Contact Amy.

597
00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:42.079
Use flow chat to have those conversations structured and organized

598
00:33:42.119 --> 00:33:45.000
in a simple software because it allows you to keep

599
00:33:45.079 --> 00:33:48.759
up with the volume of things, comments, direct messages, all

600
00:33:48.759 --> 00:33:52.079
that stuff. Otherwise it gets overwhelming. If you have those

601
00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:55.079
simple tools like that package right there. By the way,

602
00:33:55.119 --> 00:33:57.960
we subscribe to these things too, I'm not telling you

603
00:33:58.000 --> 00:34:01.480
something we don't do ourselves. That package, right there is

604
00:34:01.519 --> 00:34:07.000
a very simple prospecting machine that gets real people in

605
00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:10.119
real conversations and allows you to do that with enough

606
00:34:10.199 --> 00:34:13.239
volume that you can actually run a business off of it.

607
00:34:13.960 --> 00:34:15.800
And that's really important. If you don't have the volume,

608
00:34:16.360 --> 00:34:19.039
you're going to constantly be struggling. And that's not a

609
00:34:19.119 --> 00:34:20.199
roller coaster we want to be on.

610
00:34:21.599 --> 00:34:25.719
Yeah, no, that is. Those are very helpful tips and.

611
00:34:27.800 --> 00:34:32.960
Tell us so where can people connect with you, and

612
00:34:32.960 --> 00:34:35.679
what's the best way to do it and anything that

613
00:34:35.719 --> 00:34:40.159
you'd like to share about your program because I'm sure

614
00:34:41.440 --> 00:34:43.719
some of our people are going to be curious about it.

615
00:34:43.800 --> 00:34:47.360
So absolutely, I'm super easy to find Chris Williams Group

616
00:34:47.400 --> 00:34:49.639
coach Nation. If you just google group coach Nation and

617
00:34:49.719 --> 00:34:52.920
Chris Williams or Chris Williams coach Nation, either one, you'll

618
00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:56.079
find our social media platforms, websites, tons of other platforms

619
00:34:56.119 --> 00:34:58.280
you've been on. You'll find all kinds of stuff. Chris

620
00:34:58.280 --> 00:35:01.599
Williams is my name. Group coach Nation is the company

621
00:35:01.679 --> 00:35:05.360
that I started. At group coach Nation, we teach experts

622
00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:08.360
how to build high end group coaching programs and mastermind

623
00:35:08.440 --> 00:35:11.440
so you can actually get your time back and get

624
00:35:11.440 --> 00:35:13.000
the revenue up. That's what we do.

625
00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:16.280
So would you like to share with their audience a

626
00:35:16.320 --> 00:35:18.719
little bit about your process, like you know, how you take,

627
00:35:19.559 --> 00:35:22.519
just kind of sharing a user journey like you know,

628
00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:25.480
and expect and what outcomes can they look for?

629
00:35:26.000 --> 00:35:28.920
Yeah? Absolutely, the user journey is all about you as

630
00:35:28.960 --> 00:35:31.519
the audience member, and I mean that sincerely. All of

631
00:35:31.599 --> 00:35:35.000
us start at different places. Some people already have big

632
00:35:35.199 --> 00:35:38.199
speaking gigs, they're best selling authors, they have a huge audience,

633
00:35:38.679 --> 00:35:41.480
and we have pathways for that. Some people are like,

634
00:35:41.599 --> 00:35:44.079
you know, I've been coaching for a year, I've got

635
00:35:44.079 --> 00:35:46.079
three clients and I want to start my first group.

636
00:35:46.280 --> 00:35:49.119
We have pathways for that. It comes down to where

637
00:35:49.159 --> 00:35:51.920
are you now? How big is your audience? You don't

638
00:35:51.920 --> 00:35:53.360
have to have a huge audience. You can have a

639
00:35:53.440 --> 00:35:56.199
very small one. But how big is your audience? Do

640
00:35:56.280 --> 00:35:59.400
you have an offer that's already selling or not? How

641
00:35:59.440 --> 00:36:02.159
good are you it's selling? How good are you at prospecting.

642
00:36:02.199 --> 00:36:04.039
We have to find out all those things, and our

643
00:36:04.039 --> 00:36:06.159
website talks a lot about those things. We've got to

644
00:36:06.199 --> 00:36:08.840
find out those things so we know, Okay, where do

645
00:36:08.920 --> 00:36:11.039
you need to start in the journey and then we

646
00:36:11.079 --> 00:36:13.079
make sure that we just get you to their closest

647
00:36:13.119 --> 00:36:15.119
path to cash. We want you to get cash flow

648
00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:18.400
going as soon as possible, regardless of what stage you're

649
00:36:18.400 --> 00:36:19.000
in your business.

650
00:36:19.320 --> 00:36:21.920
All right, so you meet people that they're at and

651
00:36:21.960 --> 00:36:25.840
it's not just that one size fit sold program that hey,

652
00:36:25.920 --> 00:36:29.199
you got to do this step five steps to my

653
00:36:29.239 --> 00:36:30.400
five step formula.

654
00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:32.840
More, it's like personalized what I'm hearing from you.

655
00:36:33.039 --> 00:36:35.960
Everybody's different, and everybody has a different market, a different background,

656
00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:39.159
different skill set, and there's some there's definitely common traits

657
00:36:39.159 --> 00:36:42.360
and themes that flow through doing this successfully. We just

658
00:36:42.400 --> 00:36:45.039
want to put you on the track where you start,

659
00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:47.280
where you should start. Yeah.

660
00:36:47.320 --> 00:36:52.440
Absolutely, that's a great way to help your customers and

661
00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:55.760
clients because that's what I believe in as well.

662
00:36:55.840 --> 00:36:59.880
Because nobody is similar to anybody else.

663
00:37:00.039 --> 00:37:05.559
Everybody's journey is different, everybody is unique. You are unique,

664
00:37:05.639 --> 00:37:10.639
and what a powerful way. So feel free to connect

665
00:37:10.679 --> 00:37:14.800
with Chris and you have his information and we'll be

666
00:37:14.840 --> 00:37:16.320
putting it in show notes as well.

667
00:37:17.239 --> 00:37:18.199
Any last words that.

668
00:37:18.159 --> 00:37:22.199
You'd like to share everybody, like Diva said, be kind,

669
00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:26.079
be authentic, be real, just do really good work. For

670
00:37:26.199 --> 00:37:29.199
real people and you'll be great. Just make sure you

671
00:37:29.239 --> 00:37:30.920
have a system around it to help you get that

672
00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:33.719
up to scale where you need to. But be real,

673
00:37:33.800 --> 00:37:34.199
be kind.

674
00:37:35.840 --> 00:37:39.519
Thank you Chris for joining us. It was such a

675
00:37:39.519 --> 00:37:42.159
pleasure to talk with you. Don't know where the time

676
00:37:42.199 --> 00:37:46.920
went by. And thank you wonderful audience for being part

677
00:37:46.960 --> 00:37:50.519
of our show. And keep those stories coming in. It's

678
00:37:50.639 --> 00:37:53.440
just so amazing to hear from you and how we

679
00:37:53.480 --> 00:37:55.760
can help you and support you live the best life

680
00:37:55.840 --> 00:37:58.760
you can. And thank you one for making the show

681
00:37:58.800 --> 00:38:02.320
technically possible. Be well and take care and see you

682
00:38:02.360 --> 00:38:02.960
all next time.

683
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Bye, everybody.

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