Redefining Midlife to Open New Opportunities

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So today we have a very special
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very amazed with her journey as we
bring her on. So welcome Amanda.

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It's such a joy to have you
on our show, Tibia, thank you

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for having me. I'm so happy
to be here. Yeah. Well,

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so I have to share this story
very quickly. Is I was walking down

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during December. It was holiday time, and as you'll know, I love

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holidays and I love Christmas. So
I hear the jingle and I'm like,

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whoa, you know it's center around
me. I still haven't I still I

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believe in Santa. And I'm like, of course. I look back and

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I see these group of wonderful women, you know, just spreading holiday cheers.

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So Amanda was one of them.
They were wearing beautiful Christmas different like

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knick knacks and you know, jingles
Christmas outfits. I stopped there was our

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annual Christmas hike and actually do a
Halloween hike. And we've also talked about

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it Thanksgiving hike, but we'll see. But yeah, it was so wonderful

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to meet you because you came up
and said can I take some pictures?

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And then you ended up walking with
us, and you know, that's how

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we met and got to know each
other. And it's been really great having

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that connection. That was really unexpected
and really surprising and fun. Yeah,

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and that's the adventure, right that
life can throw us. And here's what

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I can share. Amanda is such
a wonderful person, brings so much joy

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and has this beautiful energy around her. We just connected and it's a start

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of a beautiful friendship. So Amanda, thank you for that. Oh well,

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likewise, and it was great,
same thing connecting with you, finding

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out you were a podcaster and you
know, picking your brain about all things

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podcasting. So it's been really great
getting to know you. Ah, it's

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wonderful. And listeners, as you
can say, me have a thing going

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over here. So it's be let's
get into Amanda's story. So Amanda,

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tell us, is there a moment
or a time or a person that still

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stands out in your memory to this
day? There You're like, yeah,

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you know, even though I was
a child, I still remember that.

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Yeah, I think I would have
to go with my paternal grandmother. Her

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name was Lady, and she always
lived near us, so wherever we moved.

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I grew up in Pennsylvania, my
dad always made sure she had an

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apartment or a condo that was close
enough for us to ride a bike or

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walk to her house and visit her. And she was not your typical grandmother.

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She did not cook, she did
not work Philly aprons. As a

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matter of fact, in the seventies
she was wearing pantsuits, which was pretty

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forward thinking for somebody at that time. And she was very involved in volunteer

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work. But I think it's kind
of like the Maya Angelou quote. You

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don't remember exactly what somebody said,
but you remember how they make you feel.

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And she always made me feel special. She always made me feel important,

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And she really had that gift,
as I think about it, for

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doing that for everyone. So no
matter who came into the room, she

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was always kind of a source of
light and love and support. She was

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a lot of fun. She liked
to sing, she liked to dance,

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and she did like to throw parties. She would hire me when I was

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an adolescent with my best friend,
and we would serve the meal and everybody

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would get dressed up. And I
remember one year, I can't remember if

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it was a holiday, it probably
was. She said, the roast is

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in the oven. Well I went
to look, and the roast was not

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in the oven. So I came
and quietly whispered to my mother. I

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think she forgot to put the indiovik, so instead of embarrassing her, we

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microwaved it, and then we had
lots of side dishes, and we just

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quietly told everybody to just move the
meat around their plate and probably not eat

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it. So we solved the problem
that way. But she was just the

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kind of person that you never you
know. She was so loving and she

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had such great intentions. I also
remember a party one time where everybody was

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dressed up and one of my cousins
had brought a man to the party,

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and he was wearing like a flowered
shirt, like something you might see in

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Hawaii, so instead and maybe shorts, so instead of like the men were

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wearing ties and the women were wearing
dresses. She brought him into the party,

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introduced him to everyone and said,
oh my gosh, he is so

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great. I wish I had thought
to wear, you know, a Hawaiian

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shirt. He looks wonderful. He
looks so much more comfortable than the rest

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of us. I'm going to use
this as a theme for my next party,

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Like she really made him feel comfortable
and not like she was not dressed

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appropriately. So I think it's a
lot of those little stories that made me

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think that. And I'm not a
grandmother yet, won't be for a while,

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but when that does happen, I'm
going to use her nickname, which

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was Lady, and because it's just
something I would want to do, you

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know, in honor of her.
And I would love to have introduced her

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to my kids. I would love
to have you know, her seeing me

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grow up and going to my career. But I always just feel like,

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you know, somewhere she knows,
right she's watching. Oh she was Lady

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in true essence. Yeah, can
you imagine. I can just picture that

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her making her guest feel so comfortable
and having that thought, like, you

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know, so many people don't even
realize they're so caught up in their own

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thoughts, right, and this was
you know, this was a different time,

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right, This was a time when
there were rules and there were boundaries

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and there was etiquette, and she
just didn't care about that if it meant

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hurting somebody's feelings or making them feel
left out, you know. So I

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really feel like she was way way
ahead of her time. She also loved

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theater, and she could quote Shakespeare
like nobody's business. And my mom would

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take her to the local theater and
a community theater and they would do Shakespeare

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and she would, you know,
do the monologues along with the actors.

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So when I was young, I
was involved in theater, and she was

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very proud of that. And I
remember when she was dying, she was

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very sick, and she was in
the hospital and I was in a one

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woman play called Dial to m for
Murder. I think I was in seventh

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grade, so it was the end
of middle school and I or beginning of

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middle school. We called it junior
high back then. And I went to

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the hospital and she just wanted to
know everything about the play and did not

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really at all talk to me about
her illness or how she was doing.

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And that was the last time I
ever saw her. So what I remember

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so specifically was her lack of focus
on herself, you know, and her

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wanting to know how I was doing, and what I was doing sounds like

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an amazing, awesome woman for I'm
sure every one of us would love to

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meet. And so that's so wonderful
having a role model like that growing up.

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So, Amanda, as you grew
and as you went into for your

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higher education, what interest did you
have? So I was always a writer?

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I started writing. I joke I
started writing books when I was four

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because I would make the take the
notebook paper and write the book, and

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then I would take the construction paper
and make the cover with the crayon illustration

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and stable them together. My mom
has kept a lot of them, so

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I've been able to go back and
look. My very first book was the

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Frog ate the Dog. So actually, no, the dog ate the frog,

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because it would be very strange the
other way around. And you know,

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I did grow up to be a
writer. I actually published my first

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book at forty, so I did
actually manifest that. But I didn't know

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how writing would impact my life.
When I was in high school and college,

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I did mostly creative writing. So
then after college, I thought,

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well, what kind of a job
can I get writing? And so I

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decided journalism made sense, and I
went to journalism school I went to undergrad

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a Duke University in North Carolina,
and then I went to Chicago and went

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to Northwestern where I studied journalism for
one year. But getting a job was

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not that easy. Back then.
We didn't have the internet, right,

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We didn't have right yeah, we
didn't have easy ways unication. And so

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literally you got a job by taking
a big, bulky resume tape because I

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was in television, and mailing that
with your cover letter and your resume to

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somebody that would likely never even acknowledge
getting it. So I was doing a

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little job in radio in my hometown, and I decided that I was going

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to drive up and down the East
Coast and just knock on doors of TV

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stations. So I went to a
company and I had them make me tapes.

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Again, couldn't send it off on
the internet, you know, to

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somebody. You had to physically go
to a place that did this. I

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had a big box of tapes,
I had a box of resumes. I

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had two dry clean suits. I
had a triple a map for those who

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know what maps are before GPS.
And I had something called the Broadcast Your

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Book, which for TV at that
time was like the Bible I had,

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you know, every station who was
a manager with the address, the phone

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number. And the funny thing is, by the time it got out in

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print, it was obsolete already because
so many of those people had moved on.

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But I just, you know,
I went. I couldn't even afford

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it. It was so expensive.
I think it was like one hundred dollars,

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and so I ended up xeroxing,
going to the library, xeroxing the

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pages for the states that I was
driving through, and I just went about

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twenty five hundred miles and knocked on
doors, and three months later, somebody

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hired me in South Carolina. So
kind of that's that's how I got into

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the business, and I was in
it for thirty five years and actually just

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left TV, left full time TV
in January. I still do freelance,

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but I also do podcasting just like
you, and continuing to write books and

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I teach journalism. So kind of
a transition into all of the things that

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I did on the side for so
many years, I'm now doing them more

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as my career. Wow, what
a story. Think about like going twenty

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five hundred miles knocking on doors and
getting that job. So let's remind back

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a little bit. Once you got
your first job, what would you say,

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like, you know, when you
got that job, what did you

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experience? What feelings were you're having
at that time? Well, it's funny

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because they hired me. This was
in nineteen eighty nine for twelve five hundred

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dollars a year. Ooh, not
knowing anything about money. I had always

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worked. I had been a babysitter, I had been a waitress. I

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had done lots of things in college, but you know, I wasn't supporting

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myself, so this was a totally
different thing. I thought, that sounds

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great, and I remember my parents
saying, well, we're going to have

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to give you a little money to
get by, and I said, no,

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no, no, I'm going to
be fine. And as a matter

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of fact, i'd had a credit
card and college that was my parents that

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I could use sparingly when I asked
them, and I cut it up because

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I said I don't need it.
I don't need it. I ended up

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getting thirteen thy five hundred when I
got there. What I did not know

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was that I was going to be
what they called back then a one man

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band, which now they call a
multi platform multimedia journalist. Which is a

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fancy way of saying, you do
it all. You shoot your own video,

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you edit your own video. When
you do something live on TV,

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you set the camera up and then
you walk in front of it. So

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I did not have that skill set. So I got there and it was,

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you know, trial by fire.
Here's the job. You want to

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do this, You're going to have
to learn how to do all this.

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So I did. I learned how
to do all of that. I had

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a little bit of training from graduate
school, but not enough. And I

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worked during the week and then on
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because I was station to Myrtle Beach, but the station was in Florence,

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South Carolina. I would drive seventy
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o'clock in the morning, I would
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and often shoot and edit most of
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would present it live at eleven and
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seen a teleprompter that anchors read off of

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this computerized screen that's just below the
camera. Well, back then that was

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not a thing. There was no
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then you rolled them through what was
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growing up in the seventies or eighties
in school, and you had the thing

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that like while you are anchoring,
where you push a little button and it

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would go through this overhead projector so
you could see the script. So it

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was it was very rudimentary, It
was very tough. And then my second

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job, I went to Portland,
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all of that, but I still
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you know, all of a sudden
now was in a very challenging climate in

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terms of being a reporter because I
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snowshof and that was a big change
for me having been in South Carolina and

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gone to college in North Carolina.
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set of skills of not reacting to
the weather, you know, when you're

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on TV and it's like seven degrees
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really dress for weather the way we
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were still wearing high heels and no
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were still dressing like we were going
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over the years. It's gotten a
little bit more relaxed. But so our

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almost have being tough. Our clothing
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environment. Yeah it was, I
mean it was tough. But I loved

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me and I loved Portland. It
was such a beautiful place. And I

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had other job opportunities and I took
that one, and I think what a

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different path my life might have taken
because Portland was a really the best way

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to describe it, it was wholesome. So you know, we were skiing

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and we were hiking, and we
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were going to bars, we were
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to restaurants. But there was something
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wholesome about it. You know,
just a bunch of twenty somethings in

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this really beautiful, cool environment,
having fun, working hard, and I

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just was so glad that I lived
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my favorite places in the United States. Sounds like it. And so what

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brought you to North Carolina? So
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was familiar with this area, and
I was just looking for a better position.

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the population in the area, the
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better the market. So I just
I knew I wanted to move up.

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I thought maybe eventually I'd want to
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thought, well, I'm going to
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TV works. So I had this
opportunity in Raleigh in their early nineties,

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and they wanted me to work in
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only worked in the satellite offices.
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main office was in Auburn, Maine, and I had worked in Myrtle Beach

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when the main office was in Florence, South Carolina. And I decided that

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they offered me the job, and
I said, you know, thanks,

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but no thanks. I need mentors. I need to be in a newsroom.

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I need to learn that way,
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my learning if I'm in another satellite
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So three months after that they called
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months they called and said, we
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station, and so I came.
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I was going to be here for
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here. So has a way of
you know, it has a way of

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getting into your heart and you just
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the best of the boat the worlds
right. We have the seasons, and

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we have that homeliness of a hometown, and yet have all the luxuries of

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a big city. So it's a
beautiful place to be in. And I

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So what would you say, you
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a day, what were some of
the lessons that you could share with her

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audience. I mean, I learned
so much from a reporter, and I

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did everything. I covered hurricanes,
I covered daily news, so I did

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everything, but my focus, or
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county growing up, so I actually
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I grew up being in the courtroom
hearing lots of stories, watching lots of

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things they did, and I was
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a lawyer, so kind of surprising
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I'm seeing it so glaringly now today
how important it was is the ability to

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interact with people who have a different
point of view and leave them with the

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feeling that they've been respected and listen
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that anymore. I don't think we
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definitely not showing examples of that on
social media. We've really become so polarized

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to the point where we can't even
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journalist, I spent thirty five years
putting my opinion aside, checking personal bias,

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understanding that my opinion was not part
of the story, and that I

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had an obligation to be fair and
balanced and to tell other people's stories as

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they wanted them to be told,
to tell their narrative, to give them

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a platform, even when I vehemently
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very hard to be diplomatic, to
become to be a good listener, to

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not make assumptions, to be able
to go out to do a story and

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not assume I already knew the answers, and you know, I didn't do

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it well every day, but I
think for the most part, I did,

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and I feel like those were some
incredible lessons. Incredible, you know.

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there at the worst time in people's

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lives, right, I mean,
you're dealing with a tragedy. So I

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learned that nobody knows how to do
that. There's no handbook when somebody's murdered

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in your family. I focused really
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have to give people leeway and grace, and they also need support and answers,

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and sometimes those would come from me, you know, I would explain

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to them, this is how the
criminal justice process works, this is what

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you can expect. I also learned
that the families of people charged with murder

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are also victims. They didn't commit
a crime, they didn't know, they're

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loved one for the most part,
was going to commit a crime. They

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didn't, they weren't involved in it, and yet they still love that person.

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So you know, you have to
also give them grace and try to

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be supportive as much as you can
and do a fair job of reporting the

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story. So I learned a lot
about people, you know, I learned

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a lot about human interaction. And
then in terms of you know, skill

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set, I am very fast at
everything I do. I can take a

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lot of information very very quickly,
you know, break it down into what

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I think people need to know,
to the main points, and I can

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do that quickly. I know a
lot of my friends when they go out

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into the workforce after they leave TV, you know, they'll get an assignment

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from their boss and whatever new business
they're in, they'll say, okay,

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you know, can you do this
in two weeks? And they're like,

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I can do it in two hours. You know, because in Local TA,

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you know, I was on at
noon for five, six seven,

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you know, not every day,
but most days I was in at least

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three shows, sometimes four or five, and I was producing, writing all

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of my own content, setting up
all my own interviews, doing all my

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own interviews. So eight plus hours, I mean, excuse me, eight

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plus minutes of produced television a day. I mean, you said, a

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documentary producer, we need you to
do eight minutes a day. They would

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tell you you were crazy, you
know, but that's what local news is.

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It's very fast, and that's you
know. One of the reasons I

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left was I knew that it was
time for me to really maybe focus more.

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I'm doing things well and not not
rushing through everything, because you can

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make mistakes when you rush, you
know, and not take everything into consider.

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So I've been enjoying changing that routine
or that pace in my own business.

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Well, that's very powerful because what
you shared was that giving grace and

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bringing your heart to work, and
that's something we all of us can do

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regardless, you know, whether you
are an entrepreneur or whether you are a

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corporate or even in any interaction,
it's so important to remember our humanity.

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And sometimes it does feel like,
you know, as you mentioned that now

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we've become so polarized that we can't
even have a civil discussion where we can

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agree to disagree. So one of
the things is that being kind, being

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understanding that they may have the viewpoint
and yet you can still come together and

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see the human part of the other
person and bring your heart to it.

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So as you are starting your new
chapter in your life there is for women.

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What happens is that you know what's
next, So tell us a little

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bit more about that. Yeah,
I mean, so, I was podcasting

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for my TV station and I did
three true crime podcasts, which I'm very

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proud of with a team. The
first one was called Follow the Truth,

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and it was about the reinvestigation of
the murder of Michael Jordan's father, James

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Jordan, happened in nineteen ninety three. I had a close relationship with one

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of the defendants in the case who
was convicted of murder and is in prison

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for life. So we kind of
relooked into that case because we didn't feel

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like a lot of the things were
done correctly at trial. We won our

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team one and Edward R. Murrow
Award for Excellence in Journalism, so we

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were very excited about that. My
next show was What Remains, and that

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was about connecting unidentified remains that are
held by state medical examiners with missing and

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murdered people, and that was very
successful, a lot of science, a

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lot of DNA. And then our
third one that we just finished that just

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came out in December was The Killing
Month August nineteen seventy eight, and that

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was about a case that I actually
knew from growing up. My dad was

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the prosecutor. It involved three brothers
who were in a criminal kind of a

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gang, if you will, and
they ended up being charged with murdering six

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people. And so I love that
genre because it's a puzzle. You take

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a crime and you break it down
and you create a story where maybe the

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listener hears things that you don't hear
or see things that you don't see.

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And then I also did a daily
news podcast. So when I left my

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station, I said, you know
what, I really love this genre.

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I really love the potential of telling
more in depth stories. And so I

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am right now. I'm in my
home studio. You've been here because you're

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going to be on my show soon. And I decided to start creating my

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own podcast. So I have one
right now. It's called Ageless Opening Doors

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with Amanda Lamb. You can get
it on Apple, Spotify, any major

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podcast platform. And it's about what
we're talking about. It's about transformation.

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It's about the fact that a lot
of women over a certain age and I

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picked fifty. You know, you
could argue it could be any age,

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but that's the age. I just
picked a lot of people feel unseen,

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you know, they feel stuck,
especially women that maybe they took time off

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to raise kids, and now their
children are out of the house, they

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feel like there may not be another
chapter. And so I knew there was

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another chapter because I have so many
friends and women in my life like yourself

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who are doing that, who are
doing that next chapter and finding what works

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for them and what they're passionate about. So I said, you know what,

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I'm just going to do a show
interviewing women about their path and about

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their journeys. And it's been so
much fun. I have so many great

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women. I've actually, I think
I've recorded about twenty shows so far,

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which you know, it's only it's
early in the year. Congratulations, Yeah,

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but I and I can. I'm
only doing fifty two. I'm doing

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one a week, so I will
have plenty a big long list for next

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year. But what's really nice is
I learn, and I think the audience

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learns too, and so I'm really
getting a lot of fulfillment out of that.

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And then I do a million other
things in media, you know.

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I coach people, I do public
speaking, consulting. I write books.

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So I have twelve books right now
so three true crime three minutes is four

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memoirs, two children's books, and
I'm really focusing on the fiction again,

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so I'm putting a thriller out that'll
be due out in the fall and yet

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to be titled. So you know, just and I teach journalism, which

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I love because I love mentoring and
I love sharing. You don't really,

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I think that one of the other
things, kind of going back to your

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question about you know, talk about
the lessons that you took away. You

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don't know how much knowledge and depth
you have in something until somebody asks you

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about it and you're given an opportunity
to share it. And as a professor,

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I'm having such a great time sharing
what I know with these young people.

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And many of them will never become
journalists, but they will have some

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skills, I hope, some understanding. What I try to leave them with

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is an understanding of how important the
written word is and also the spoken word,

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no matter what job you have.
And then finally, just know what's

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going on around you. You don't
have to read every news website or watch

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every program or listen to every program, but have a working knowledge of the

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world, understand what's happening in other
parts of the world. It's really important

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for us. I think it's human
beings to be able to have a good

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working knowledge of current events. Definitely, and it's inspiring that you are not

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only studying the new chapter, but
you will be bringing the knowledge to a

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lot of women or maybe thinking that, oh, I'm done. And I

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still recall you had mentioned in one
of our conversations that it's you're not done.

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There's more. So, what would
you say to those women who may

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be thinking, ah, you know
what, I've done everything and is maybe

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experiencing a little yeah. You know, as women, especially if you have

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children and you spend so much of
your life giving to other people, right

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to your partner, your spouse,
your children, your job, your dog.

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You know, you may have aging
parents, right, so you may

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be taking care of them. I
was a caregiver for my mother and my

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husband was a caregiver for his mother, so we both went through that.

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And this is such a great time
for me because it's time for me and

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for other women to really examine what
is it that you want, what is

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it that you want to do.
It's interesting because I decided this year I

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was going to say yes to a
lot of things that I really wouldn't have

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said yes to in the past because
I wouldn't have time because my job was

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really demanding. And now i'm scaling
that back. I'm starting to say,

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you know what, I'm only going
to say yes to things that give me

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joy that have some benefit to me
or others. If they have benefit to

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others, I may still say yes
even when I'm like, Wow, that's

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hard, but I'm going to do
it anyway because I think there's a benefit.

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But when I don't see the benefit
in it, I'm going to say

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no because I'm going to put my
energy in things that bring me and other

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people joy that I'm passionate about,
that I care about. Because the one

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thing, and you and I talked
about this when I interviewed you about having

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a job, is that you are
working for someone else. They have things

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that they need and want done,
and there's just no way that everything you

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believe is going to align with that. There's no way that every single day

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you're going to wake up and say, oh, I really can't wait to

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do X, Y and Z for
this manager or my case, for this

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show. And some days you really
loved it and some days you enjoyed it,

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but you don't enjoy it every day, and you don't enjoy every moment.

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But when you're working for yourself,
you have this I don't know,

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it's just a different energy, right, You're just excited. You're excited about

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what you're doing. You're not looking
at it as a burden. Oh,

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I have to do this work for
somebody else. You're looking at it as

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I'm doing this for me and for
my audience and for my mission and message

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and legacy and all of those things. So I'm just I don't recall having

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this much feeling of freedom in my
life really since I was a child,

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because I always heard from the I
never had a break. I went right

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from college to graduate school to a
job, and so all of a sudden,

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it's like this freedom of you know, I work every day, I

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work long hours, but it's for
me. So what I'm hearing is that

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rather than experiencing stuck, think about
it as new beginnings. And when you

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open yourself up to new beginnings and
bring that curiosity and awe to me,

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it becomes an adventure. Yeah.
I mean I one of the speeches that

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I do is called lead like a
girl and watch them follow. And it's

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kind of a play on words because
I start with a picture of me doing

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my one and only marathon and no
intention of doing another one. I do

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have, and I do them sparingly
now at my age, because it's it's

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it does take a toll on your
body. But what I say to women

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is what is your marathon? Like? What is it? It doesn't have

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to be huge. It doesn't have
to be climbing a mountain, winning the

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lottery, painting, you know,
some fantastic painting, you know, creating,

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you know, an opera. It
doesn't have to be that. It

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could be so much simpler than that. You know. It could be a

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fitness goal. It could be a
personal goal that you set. You know,

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I haven't spent enough time with this
friend. I haven't really been paying

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a lot of attention to whatever in
my life, and I want to get

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back to that. So listen to
your gut. Do definitely be curious and

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open, but follow what your gut
is telling you that you want to do,

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instead of always going, well,
I guess I should do that,

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or this is what other people think
I should do, or this is what

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my family and friends are telling me. I should do, you know,

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just do it. I mean,
when I wrote my first book, I

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didn't have a clue how to get
published. I had no idea. I

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still don't, but I you know, I'm still not really sure. I

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couldn't teach a course on that.
Journalism yes, publishing no. But I

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just said, I'm just going to
do it. And I really was naive.

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But I did it. And then
I did it again and again,

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and I did it different ways.
I've had an agent, I've not had

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an agent. I've gone to small
publishers. I've done online publishing, self

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publishing. So I've just decided if
I want to do it, I'm going

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to do it. And it's the
same thing with podcasting. I just loved

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it and I said, you know
what, this is really fun and I'm

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interested in this topic and I'm just
going to figure it out. And believe

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me, my learning curve in the
last couple of months, I mean,

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my brain activity is way up here
because I'm challenging myself to do things like

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editing and marketing and social media.
I haven't edited video or audio since nineteen

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ninety one and it is twenty twenty
four, So do the map. I'm

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now doing something different that I've never
done before or haven't done you know,

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certainly not in the modern age.
So it's challenging, but it's also exciting,

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you know. And yeah, you
also have to be willing to take

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a risk and fail. You know, I have an idea in my mind

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of how long I'll do the show
and see where it takes me, and

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it's kind of just my personal deadline
for Okay, if I get to this

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point and I'm you know, not
wildly successful, then maybe I need to

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change fears or reevaluate how much energy
I'm putting here and maybe put less energy

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here and put more energy somewhere else. But right now, I'm just going

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to keep on going, and you
know you're enjoying it, yeah, and

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that's what matters. So exactly,
this is amazing. You know, you

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are leading by example, so what
you're telling other women, you're doing it

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yourself, and what better way to
show anybody rather than doing it? So

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now, you know, I'm sure
our listeners are curious, so tell us,

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you know, where can they find
you, where can they connect with

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you? And also tell us about
your podcast again so great, So you

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can find me on social media on
Facebook My company is called Stage Might so

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s T A G E M I
G M I G hd so the opposite

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of stage Fright. I am still
on my w r L social media.

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They've been very gracious, so you
can also still find me at w r

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e L Amanda Lamb both on Facebook
and you can find me under that on

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Instagram. I'm on YouTube Amanda Lamb
at Stage my Communications Again. My podcast

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is Ageless A G E L E
S S All Capital colon Opening Doors with

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Amanda Lamb. There's other podcasts that
have that that word in it, so

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you have to look look it up
that way. But I'm on all major

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podcast platforms and if you like,
please follow the show. If you like

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00:40:42.880 --> 00:40:45.760
the show, I would love to
amass you know, a bigger audience.

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And I'm just excited about it.
I'm excited about the women I'm talking to.

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I'm excited about the feedback I'm getting. And look for an upcoming show

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with Jibya coming up in I'll have
to get you a date, but it's

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in March. So I'm excited right
as the listeners to hear you and see

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you. And here's the thing,
folks that as you have heard Amanda today.

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She provides a lot of wealth of
knowledge and her life experience, and

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you can get a taste of it
and experience it fully with her podcast.

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So I know that I will be
listening to her podcast episodes. I invite

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you to do the same. So
thank you Amanda for joining us. It

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was such a pleasure to have you
on the show. Thank you so much

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for having me. It's been a
delight absolutely. So thank you listeners for

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joining us, because without you,
the show would not be possible. Reach

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out to us, let us know
how can we support you to live the

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life you deserve and you want.
They'll bring you the experts, will bring

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00:41:58.239 --> 00:42:00.719
you the stories, will bring you
the technique. And thank you again for

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being part of your show. Our
show, and it's your show, and

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it's together, it's our family.
And thank you on for making this technically

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possible. So be well and take
care until next time. Thank you for

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being part of Beyond Confidence with your
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more about how to start living the
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Confidence, you hear stories of real
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when she stepped out of her comfort
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globe. She not only coaches people
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transform relationships to mutually beneficial partnerships as
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If you are ready to live the
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week. Mm hmm