July 15, 2025
The Neuroscience of Midlife Reinvention
Join Divya Parekh for an illuminating conversation with Dr. Cristina Leira, a global expert in neuroscience, symbolic psychology, cultural intelligence, and AI. From training Navy SEALs to exploring the transformative power of symbolism, Cristina has spent her life decoding how the brain rewires for resilience, purpose, and reinvention.
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Good morning listeners, Happy Tuesday. So wonderful to be here
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And I was in Washington, DC just recently, and what
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was not on, they let her cross and just so.
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Like we know, one driver all I needed was one driver. Yeh.
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Backed up a little bit, but she was able to
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cross the street. And that was a beautiful sign to watch.
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Lesson write our guest doctor Christina Leary. Welcome. Hi, How
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like you good? How are you so? Tell us? Are awesome?
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Good to have you? So?
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Do you recall a moment or a person in your
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life who left the pastor mark on you.
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Yes, I'm living with her now. My mom.
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How did she impact you?
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Well? She was born with a disability, walking disability, and
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that never stopped her. She never complained, only now because
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she's not that independent as she used to be, But
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she never complained. She always rose to the occasion. Interestingly enough,
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my father was a food doctor and that's the way
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they met. She could not be operated on, and he
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fell in love with her male formed feet, and that's
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the way they married. And they were together until my
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father passed in two thousand and nine. And so now
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I am in Argentina because she had a heart failure
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just a few weeks ago and I had to fly
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overnight from the United States to be here and take
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care of her. And even now she doesn't complain. Even
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now she is full of strength. So yeah, I'm living
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the legacy of resilience, the legacy of acceptance, but not
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but not giving up.
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That is such a powerful thing and for her to
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and that's so beautiful that she doesn't let the external
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circumstances deter her from the person she is and becoming
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that person exactly right.
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So you have.
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Been working, you know, helping people with neuroplasticity. So how
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did you get into the neuroscience?
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Have you ever watched a movie Forrest Gump?
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Oh?
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Yeah, that's pretty much my life. I never planned anything,
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It just fell on my lap. I just follow through.
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So I started my life as a linguist in fact
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here and I've seen as a translator and interpreter and teacher.
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Then life took me to the US where I did
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my masters in applay linguistics. And I sitting next to
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this lady when I was doing the masters, she said, oh,
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would you like to teach this bunch of people? They
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need to learn Spanish. I'm like, here, I just came
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to do my masters and go back home. Said, oh,
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you will love it. It's with Navy seals, and I
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this is nineteen ninety six, so I was like, what
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are seals like? Seals? I'm like, stop it. So I
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didn't even know what they were, and so I said,
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well whatever. Twenty five years later everybody was gone, but
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I was the one staying. And so I started from
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the very low, you know, teaching part time, then in
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full time, and then academic coordinator, and then I ended
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up on the government level as the product manager, leading
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Navy Seals to learn the language and cultural awareness of
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the countries where they were going to lead their missions.
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And the beauty of that was that I had a
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chance to see the before and nature, the before going
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to their missions wars, the aftermath when they came back,
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and I found that we were we are our department
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with people from all over the world, refugees, foreign nationals,
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immigrants like me. We were all like their happy place
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to go because when they came with us, we sat together,
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we ate the meals of the different countries. They learned
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the language before going, but after coming back they still
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wanted to hang out with us. So I started getting
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intrigued about how you know, going to war and then
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went back how do you adapt to that? But again
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I was still a linguist.
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That's what I did.
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But in twenty twenty one the program, after twenty five years,
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the program was defunded, and I didn't want to look
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for another position that was a GS. I could have
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definitely looked for another GS position, but I felt like
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it was my time to go. But in the meantime,
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I had started to feel a lot of intrigue about
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neuroscience and the science of the brain. Now we're talking
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of twenty seventeen eighteen. Believe it or not, it was
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not a big deal neuroscience. Not many many people talked
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about that. In fact, when I told my mom that
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I wanted to go and do my PhD on on
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this topic, my mom looks like, you got to be
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kidding me to something tangible? What is that? So I'm
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like great, But I still did it. So that was
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the beginning, and I went back to school. When the
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problem was defunded, I found myself unplugged. My identity was gone.
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I was invisible, so I had to reinvent myself and
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then I had to apply everything that I had learned
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about cognition, about how the brain works, about neuroplasticity to myself.
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So that is how it all started. I never planned
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on it. I just felt wrong and I just followed
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my my intuisue.
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Yeah, so it sounds like, you know, you followed what
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we're showing up for you.
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So a lot of people.
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Who follow the they're like, you know, you go to
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good schools, get a job, and you know, all the
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societal expectations, and they may have a definitive path and
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people are not very much open to.
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Like okay, because as.
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They're kind of growing through their lives, you know, there
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are responsibilities. But then sometimes what happens is that are
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in their midlife and then they start feeling that age
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like you know, leet did my life go?
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What is happening? So what could they do during those times?
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So midlife happens to all of us, and that is
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a very fortunate thing because the other option is that
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we are not on earth, and so the good news
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is we all get old. That is a fantastic news.
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Doesn't mean that we are useless, doesn't mean that we
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lose purpose. It means that we have to grow with
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the age. Where we are, we have to accompany the
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evolution of our body, of our soul, of our spirit.
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So in midlife, many times people are urged by society
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to stay where they were when they were twenties or thirties,
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and it's like running against the wind. You know, it's
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going to be quite a painful path to do that.
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So when that happens, and it happens in different ways
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to people, right, we don't all age at the same pace,
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and it's fine, it's supposed to be like that. But
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when it happens and it touches us, we need to
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just start slowly saying, hey, wait a second, I used
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to do this maraphon. Now I cannot do it. So
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instead of saying, if only start saying, at least I
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can do a short term maraphon. And when you cannot
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do that, Matophon and said, at least I can jog.
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And when you cannot jog, well, at least I can walk.
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And like my mom when she can a walk, and
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she said, at least I can get out of bed.
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There is always an at least. And I think that
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midlife is about that, which is different from letting like,
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it's different from giving up it's about letting go. Let's
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just let go of the whold of what is old
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and believe it or not, sometimes the younger part of
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us is old. We need to let go of that
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and then embrace the next level. And that is really
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when the magic starts to happen, and that is the
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invitation for those in midlife now. It's very easy to
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say like that in abstract terms. We all go through
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it differently, but in the end it's the same. It's
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like everything, right. We are all humans. We are different,
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but we are the same. So this is the same.
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The experience of midlife is different, but it's the same. Now.
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When you have a mid life crisis that comes with
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a divorce, or with a bad diagnosis, or with losing
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your job, now things start getting even or the advent
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of AI at your job, then things start getting more
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and more complicated, and that is the time when you
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have to take a good introspection at your own. At
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some point, we all have to do that. Either it's
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in the morning or in the evening. At some point
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we have to stop and say, wait a second, what
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am I heading to Because it's happening. The divorce happened,
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or the diagnose happened or the laid off happened. And
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at some point, if we don't want to go downhill,
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we need to stop. We need to just stop and say, hey,
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this happened. So now I have to dream invent myself,
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which is a word that is very very used and
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soon to become a cliche, but it's really a beautiful
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word green bed right, but soon to be. Yeah.
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So you talk about symbolism, tell us a bit more
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about that.
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Well, symbolism is something that goes very much to the
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heart of my life. In fact, my thesis was based
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on the study of symbolism how we use religious symbols
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to cope in terms of adversity, not because of the
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religiosity of the symbols, but because symbols go bypass our
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analytical mind, so it speaks directly to our deeper level
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of our identity. So symbols is metaphors, archetypes, affirmations, and
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if like, and and again. The symbols are in the
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five or six senses. Right, you have the when you
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have some incense, a symbolistic of you know, elevating your brain,
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your mind, your thoughts to the high above. When you
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play music, sacred music or any type of music that
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elevates your spirit. It's another type of bypassing the analytical
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mind and going to that part of the subconscious that
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tells you all is well, you're fine. That is what
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symbols are about. It's a way to tell you all
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is well. You cannot understand that, but always well, So
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why is it that when we are going through something
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really difficult, we don't want to sometimes talk with anybody,
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but it's just play the music, or you just go
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for a walk, or you just said, I mean I
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love threes. I just sit with the back on.
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My So definitely symbolism, I think.
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So it's the rituals and thinking about you know, as
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doctor Christina will join us back, is that think about
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even when we look at the holidays, we look forward.
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To it because.
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It could be for example, Christmas is symbolic of love,
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peace and joy and season of giving and similarly, like
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you know, it could be the Wali, which is symbolic
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of light of festivities, which is spreading the light through darkness.
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So having those symbolisms, having that symbolism in your life
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can be very very powerful. Now when you're thinking about
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